[deport]

many of us in my camp find it equally baffling that so many self-described "conservatives" can look past Bush's faults.

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Probably because those 'self-described conservatives' aren't 'true' or 'real' conservatives..... You see most conservatives outside of the 'real/true conservative' can live with reality that it's either going to be President Bush reelected or the Democrat Nominee elected.... one of the other.... no 3rd party will even be in the hunt just as they haven't been even when Perot took some 19% of the vote in 1992 and Zero Electoral College votes...

Heck a 'real conservative' in the name of Ron Paul ran on the LP ticket back in 1984 was it and didn't even smell up the place then came back to the Republican party to run for his old congressional seat.... Even he understands you have to be in one or the other of the two major parties to be effective and in most cases to even be elected......

[Nanodik]

Yeah which is why I am saying you need to break the RP to fix it. You let them go down this road and they will never look back. As long as they can get elected by doing "x", expect them to keep doing "x". When they get their ass handed to them on a platter, then they will suddenly get introspective.

[Grampa Dave]

Ron Paul is the original RINO poster boy. He is no more a republican than Howard Dean.

The only way he could elected was to be the RINO Poster Boy.

RINO Cowboy Paul!