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| 1/29/04
| James Taranto
Posted on 01/29/2004 12:36:55 PM PST by areafiftyone
Edited on 04/23/2004 12:06:25 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Today's lull in the presidential campaign affords us an opportunity to look at the latest developments in the weird postwar debate over Iraq, in which certain American and British politicians and journalists, for reasons of partisanship, ideology or self-aggrandizement, have for months been trying to transform victory over Saddam Hussein into defeat for America and its allies.
(Excerpt) Read more at opinionjournal.com ...
TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: bricelalonde; jamestaranto; johnkerry; kerry; kerryisfrench
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To: Pubbie; ambrose; Torie
"Former French environment minister Brice Lalonde on Wednesday said he was backing his first cousin US Senator John Kerry in his bid to take the Democratic presidential nomination." LOOKS LIKE CHERIE HAS A FRENCH CONNECTION
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:45:52 PM PST
by
KQQL
(@)
It turns out Kerry was no less two-faced about Kuwait 13 years ago. Jan. 22, 1991: "Thank you for contacting me to express your opposition . . . to the early use of military force by the US against Iraq. I share your concerns. On January 11, I voted in favor of a resolution that would have insisted that economic sanctions be given more time to work and against a resolution giving the president the immediate authority to go to war."
Jan. 31, 1991: "Thank you very much for contacting me to express your support for the actions of President Bush in response to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. From the outset of the invasion, I have strongly and unequivocally supported President Bush's response to the crisis and the policy goals he has established with our military deployment in the Persian Gulf."
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:48:11 PM PST
by
KQQL
(@)
To: areafiftyone
Jean F. Cheri has a French cousin! So now we know he's more than just a French looking guy...
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:55:59 PM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: areafiftyone
No wonder the Democrats are starting to line up behind Kerry. He has French support and, if there's one thing we learned from the build-up to the Iraq war, there's nothing a liberal values as much as approval from France.
To: areafiftyone
I hope that Michael Medved picks up the French cousin tidbit!!!
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:56:59 PM PST
by
Ann Archy
To: Behind Liberal Lines
I cannot believe how the Eurotwits are involved in this election.
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posted on
01/29/2004 12:57:18 PM PST
by
areafiftyone
(Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
To: areafiftyone
Kerry has been very iffy about his background.
His paternal grandfather was "Cohen" from Austria...and apparently changed his name to "Kerry", so it goes, BEFORE he left Austria.
His Maternal grandparent are, apparently, Forbes and Winthrop family...Not seemingly French, but there has been mention of his French connection, loosely, in the past.
For sure, he isn't square on his background. And doesn't talk about his diplomat father who served in Berlin after WWII, or his own time in a Swiss boarding school.
Strange....
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posted on
01/29/2004 1:00:20 PM PST
by
Shermy
To: Shermy
As the saying goes: "It will all come out in the wash".
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posted on
01/29/2004 1:04:29 PM PST
by
areafiftyone
(Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
To: areafiftyone; thierrya
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posted on
01/29/2004 1:05:44 PM PST
by
Shermy
To: Shermy
Monsieur Jean Cherie
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posted on
01/29/2004 1:12:46 PM PST
by
KQQL
(@)
To: KQQL
Those 2 are hysterical.
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posted on
01/29/2004 1:18:59 PM PST
by
The G Man
(Wesley Clark is just Howard Dean in combat boots)
To: KQQL
Kerry came many times to Britanny, France.
He used to play there with his French cousin Brice Lalonde (who's also a friend of Al Gore) when he was a kid.
In the village where his cousin Brice is mayor you can see posters, stickers supporting Kerry everywhere!
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posted on
01/29/2004 1:22:31 PM PST
by
thierrya
To: thierrya
really.....lol
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posted on
01/29/2004 1:25:07 PM PST
by
KQQL
(@)
To: areafiftyone
This is a very series development, as it was a picture of Clark that was carrying a croissant.
Is it possible?
Can both of these candy_dates be..
(gulp)..
French?
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posted on
01/29/2004 1:28:55 PM PST
by
SGCOS
To: Shermy
Kerry's French cousin is a "maire"? Does that have anything to do with Kerry's horse face?
Maybe we should start calling freedom fries "Kerry fries."
To: KQQL
Links and stories in French about Kerry and his French cousin, sorry: too lazy to translate (I'm French and it's late here!!):
Le successeur probable de Bush connait bien la Bretagne
John Kerry, le candidat américain du parti démocrate aux élections présidentielles, vient de remporter les primaires du New Hampshire et se place ainsi en tête de liste pour succéder a Bush.
Malgré son nom, et une amitié de longue date avec la famille Kennedy, John Kerry nest pas dorigine irlandaise, mais il a quelques racines en Bretagne.
Daprès un article du Boston Globe, John Kerry : Candidat in the making part I, on apprend que le père de John Kerry est venu passer un moment à Saint Briac-sur-Mer, en Ile-et-Vilaine, dès 1937. La mère de John Kerry, Rosemary venait dune famille affluente qui avait une propriété a Saint Briac sur Mer, en face de la mer, qui fut confisquée par les Allemands en 1940 et détruite en 1944 par des tirs dartillerie allemands. La maison a été reconstruite depuis et appartient toujours à la famille des Forbes-Kerry.
Rosemary, était la soeur de la mère de Brice Lalonde, maire de Saint Briac-sur-Mer depuis 1995 et ancien candidat aux présidentielles lui-même. Dans une interview mercredi sur TF1 Brice Lalonde a révélé que son cousin germain, peut-être le futur président des Etats-Unis était venu souvent passer des vacances en Bretagne à Saint Briac.
Philippe Argouarch
ABP
http://www.agencebretagnepresse.com/fetch.php?id=760 Les espoirs de Brice Lalonde
Brice Lalonde, ancien ministre de l'environnement du gouvernement Rocard et ancien leader de Génération Ecologie, espère que son cousin, le démocrate John Kerry, sera élu président des Etats-Unis. M. Kerry est cousin germain de M. Lalonde puisque leurs deux mères étaient surs. « Nos deux mamans étaient surs, d'une famille qui pendant la guerre a essaimé un peu partout et s'est dispersée sur les cinq continents », a t-il expliqué. » Mon cousin est sympa, j'aimerais bien qu'il gagne », a-t-il ajouté. « Nous nous sommes vus il y a six mois et déjà, je souhaitais qu'il soit dans la compétition et qu'il accède à la fonction suprême », poursuit M. Lalonde. Pour lui, M. Kerry « a beaucoup plus de chance d'être éligible » que les autres prétendants démocrates.
http://www.lunion.presse.fr/fmd/20040129.UNA3573.html?0829 Lalonde : « Kerry ne voit pas le monde en noir et blanc »
John Kerry a un cousin en France : Brice Lalonde, le fondateur de Génération écologie. Leur grand-mère maternelle, Rosemary Forbes, avait traversé l'Atlantique pour vivre à Saint-Briac-sur-Mer (Ille-et-Vilaine), dont l'ex-ministre de l'Environnement est le maire.
John Kerry passe pour un patricien qui a du mal à fendre l'armure. Quel genre d'homme est-il ?
Aux États-Unis, tous les gens de Nouvelle-Angleterre font patriciens. La famille de John la mienne, donc est, de plus, une très vieille famille : les Winthrop font partie des fondateurs du Massachusetts. Mais John est d'abord un grand gaillard chaleureux, doté d'un grand sens de la famille. Quelqu'un d'attentionné... et aussi très occupé. Je l'ai vu il y a six mois, mais il y a un moment qu'il est venu à Saint-Briac. On se voit quand il passe à Paris, quand je vais aux États-Unis, dans des occasions comme le sommet de Kyoto sur l'effet de serre.
Il partage votre intérêt pour l'environnement ?
C'est sûrement le candidat le plus écolo. Sur la réduction des émissions de gaz à effet de serre, il veut que l'Amérique contribue à l'effort avec les autres nations. Il pense qu'il ne faut pas dépendre du pétrole, s'oppose aux forages dans l'Alaska et veut développer les énergies renouvelables.
Où le situez-vous ?
C'est un libéral de centre gauche. Très clair et ferme sur les questions de sécurité, les questions militaires. Et en même temps très libéral sur les questions de société, pas hostile au commerce international. Je le rapprocherais de Bill Clinton. Mais son modèle, c'est Kennedy. Il a cette vision d'une Amérique généreuse, beaucoup plus préoccupée de la planète, de la lutte contre le sida...
Il a voté pour la guerre en Irak avant de se rétracter. Aurait-il une politique étrangère différente de celle de George Bush ?
Je ne suis pas son porte-parole. Mais il m'a toujours expliqué que lorsque vous menacez un dictateur, il faut que cela soit crédible. C'est pourquoi il a voté avec le Congrès et donné le feu vert à George Bush. Il pense qu'ensuite Bush s'est précipité et que beaucoup d'erreurs ont été commises. Kerry tient au multilatéralisme. Il souhaite que l'Amérique retrouve le concert des nations. Sa position sur l'Irak me rappelle son évolution sur le Vietnam : il devance la conscription, s'engage dans la Navy, devient un héros téméraire, s'aperçoit que cette guerre est une folie, rentre aux États-Unis et prend la tête de la mobilisation contre la guerre. C'est un type courageux, mais pondéré. Il refuse le simplisme. Pour lui, le monde n'est pas noir et blanc.
Il connaît bien la France, parle français... S'il était élu, serait-il l'homme du rapprochement ?
C'est à lui de répondre. Beaucoup d'Américains qui aiment la France et y ont leurs habitudes n'ont pas apprécié la manière dont la France, du moins son gouvernement, les a lâchés. Cela laisse des traces. Mais je pense que si Kerry était élu, ce serait une occasion de se rabibocher.
Recueilli par Bruno RIPOCHE
http://www.ouest-france.fr/ofetranger.asp?idDOC=119298&idCLA=3637
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posted on
01/29/2004 1:38:37 PM PST
by
thierrya
To: thierrya; areafiftyone
Article from "Est Republicain", apparently only available in cache. I "babelfished" the article, and touched up the translation a little.
http://66.218.71.225/search/cache?p=%22john+kerry%22+lalonde&ei=UTF-8&n=20&fl=0&url=nrBMmGsxa_cJ:www.estrepublicain.fr/monde/2004012800088544.html His aunt, Fiona Lalonde, and his cousin Brice, the former minister for the Environment, attest to
to the early ambitions of John Kerry.
She speaks about him like her "nephew preferred", of a boy "above average", "serious" and"without esbroufe". Fiona Lalonde, retired to Lot (France) where she has raised horses and sheep for a long time, is the most enthusiastic supporter of John Kerry in France. Understanable: she is
his aunt. Between CNN and BBC World, she does not cease to zap (remote control for tv?) toclosely follow the election campaign of the son of her late sister, Rosemary: "Johnny? He is not Bush ", ironically in an energetic voice," he is completely the opposite, he is intelligent!" the candidacy for the democratic nomination of the child of the family did not surprise her a second: "At 12 years, he already thought of becoming president of the United States...", she reveals,delighted with scores of her nephew and surveys which put him in good position, in his Party and
vis-a-vis with the current chief of the White House.
Holidays close to Dinard
Brice Lalonde is not remains about it who finds with his first cousin an astonishing resemblance... to Abraham Lincoln (without the beard, but with the same "protruding chin"). As teenagers, they found themselves during the holidays in the residence of their maternal grandmother, close to Dinard: "He was a leader. He organized all the plays. I remember "Capture the flag", it was with
that which would catch the flag of the other. One was also done, on bicycle, of little Tours de France around the house ", recounted the former minister for the Environment of Edith Cresson, today (he is) mayor of Saint-Briac-sur-Mer into Ille-and-Unpleasant (Vilaine).
The two cousins were often re-examined (reacquainted?), in particular in Kyoto where John Kerry was the democratic delegate with the Conference for the environment: "He is a true defender of nature. And a multilateralist ", affirms the former president of Ecology Generation who describes him as "authentic patriot ": "With him, the Americans passed from resentment with regard to Bush to the
idea that he (note: Kerry) could represent them in Washington ".
Brice Lalonde like John Kerry, by their mothers, come from a shelled (ecossais) clan, Forbes, themselves descended from the first American pioneers, Winthrop: "John Winthrop debarked on the continent before Mayflower", explains Fiona Lalonde, "he is rather of course with the Indians. And he was the first governor of Boston. This is why, in the family, we often say that we made America! "the" clan "(Fiona Lalonde has ten brothers and sisters) expanded in the world, as far as Africa: "For Johnnys inauguration, it will be necessary to charter for us a plane", she laughs, persuaded of final victory.
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posted on
01/29/2004 1:42:51 PM PST
by
Shermy
To: Verginius Rufus
Maire is Mayor.
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posted on
01/29/2004 1:44:27 PM PST
by
Shermy
To: Verginius Rufus
Maybe we should start calling freedom fries "Kerry fries."Maybe we should start calling horseflies "Kerry flies".
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posted on
01/29/2004 1:46:39 PM PST
by
Publius
(Bibimus et indescrete vivimus.)
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