[Recovering_Democrat]

Maybe you could describe how the PA could ever expire?

I've been through this argument before, so let me just give the Readers' Digest version: the war against terror is won. Measures within the PA deemed appropriate for continued law enforcement and national security are kept, others are allowed to expire.

If you're really interested in an opinion and argument that is an alternative to the fear-mongering of the PA opponents, I invite you to find other threads about the subject and note the curious lack of evidence that the PA has been or is being used in an unconstitutional manner.

[LN2Campy]

The actual application of the act is irrelevant -- just because someone has a loaded weapon pointed at your head "but hasn't fired YET" is no reason to feel at ease.

The PA, pure and simple, is a whittling away of constitutional protections...the FBI being allowed to have a "free look" into your home without your knowledge and without a warrant is just one example.

The PA is a governmental power grab. As another poster mentioned, our borders are like Swiss cheese yet the Depts of Homeland Security and Justice feel no need to address that. That in itself gives the lie to the motivation behind the PA.

[freeeee]

the war against terror is won

An essential condition. Name the theoretical conditions for a declared victory in the WoT.

I submit that there are none. The WoT is the typical 'perpetual war' described in '1984': Low intensity conflict at home, shifting opponents, infiltrators and sabateurs under every stone. It's got it all.

Measures within the PA deemed appropriate for continued law enforcement and national security are kept

The PA is going to expire, but they're going to keep parts???

You have an odd notion of 'expire'.