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To: Coop
That's not accurate. We've located many facilities and personnel involved with the WMD programs.

We located facilities and personnel involved in WMD programs that were active?

I thought Dr. Kay's testimony was that the scientists were taking the money for the programs, but not actually making any weapons. And that all the Generals all thought some other General actually had the weapons, but none actually did. Maybe I missed something.

87 posted on 01/29/2004 7:24:43 AM PST by ConservativeLawyer (God Bless our Troops!)
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To: ConservativeLawyer
Kay's Interim Report to Congress

Here's just a brief excerpt:

What have we found and what have we not found in the first 3 months of our work?

We have discovered dozens of WMD-related program activities and significant amounts of equipment that Iraq concealed from the United Nations during the inspections that began in late 2002. The discovery of these deliberate concealment efforts have come about both through the admissions of Iraqi scientists and officials concerning information they deliberately withheld and through physical evidence of equipment and activities that ISG has discovered that should have been declared to the UN. Let me just give you a few examples of these concealment efforts, some of which I will elaborate on later:

A clandestine network of laboratories and safehouses within the Iraqi Intelligence Service that contained equipment subject to UN monitoring and suitable for continuing CBW research.

A prison laboratory complex, possibly used in human testing of BW agents, that Iraqi officials working to prepare for UN inspections were explicitly ordered not to declare to the UN.

Reference strains of biological organisms concealed in a scientist's home, one of which can be used to produce biological weapons...

Read the entire report. It's fascinating, and really makes many of the "no WMDs" arguments laughable. I did notice one thing I'd forgotten over the months. In his Oct 03 report, Kay said this:

Any actual WMD weapons or material is likely to be small in relation to the total conventional armaments footprint and difficult to near impossible to identify with normal search procedures. It is important to keep in mind that even the bulkiest materials we are searching for, in the quantities we would expect to find, can be concealed in spaces not much larger than a two car garage;

In other words, we do not expect to find any large stockpiles of WMDs. But a few months later it's suddenly a huge issue. LOL

103 posted on 01/29/2004 7:35:09 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: ConservativeLawyer
I thought Dr. Kay's testimony was that the scientists were taking the money for the programs, but not actually making any weapons. And that all the Generals all thought some other General actually had the weapons, but none actually did. Maybe I missed something.

Obviously, you missed the discussion of WMD related programs. The Antrhax simulent they used to advance their Antrhax capabilities, from liquid Antrhax to much more lethal "freeze dryed" Anthrax a la the Anthrax letters. The development of VX nerve gas precursors, from indiginous material. The decision to resurrect the delivery systems (ie. the al-Samoud missle) first as they considered them to be the most time consuming part of their WMD program.

All benign activities indeed. Did you watch the testimony?

238 posted on 01/29/2004 9:29:48 AM PST by Smogger
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