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Remind me again, who did the fighting in the revolutionary war? And who did their thinking for them? Funny that this country was founded by simple, civilian men, who each made their own personal decision to take up arms in defense of their liberty----and that they intended for it to STAY that way.

You may be a bright person, but that is an incredibly stupid argument. You reach back over 200 years for an example? Ok, tell you what, as soon as you can guarantee that any enemy will dress in red coats, and line up nicely to be shot, I will agree that a self run self maintaining civilian force will work.

If the nature of civilization has changed to the extent that the principles of the founders are invalidated, then the Constitution must be changed by the process that it alone provides for itself. Any other method of changing the rules by which our federal government conducts itself opens (and has opened) the door to unlimited rule by men----not of law. Tyranny.

What was it that Japanese Admiral Yamamoto said as recently as WW2? Well into the age of fighers and bombers and rockets and on the verge of nuclear weapons? "You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass."

It is NOT the military which secures the liberty of the United States. In fact it remains the free citizen with a gun in his hand. Brad is exactly right. It is impossible for a foreign power to take control of America. It can be obliterated, eliminating virtually anything of value in its conquest----but never militarily defeated and occupied.