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Please just read this and hear me out, it may be a bit rambling so my apologize. You know what is the sad part about this whole tragedy. We all want what is best for the country. We all hold GWB at least in some ways in high regards. And some of us, those who have been very critical of GWB on parts of his domestic agenda are just the tip of the iceberg. The have been numerous articles as of late warning that gwb is angering the base. And those of us, myself among them, who have publicly said that we cannot or will not support GWB know that he is the best one running that can win. We need to start finding ways to move GWB back to the right quickly so that those here who no longer support him will be given real and substantial reasons to reevaluate their choose. Both for them and for all the others out there who are not on this board, but are fed up with the leftist slant as of late. Because if GWB does not at least try to appease the base he very well could go the way of his father. We need to work to bring GWB back to the right and keep his feet to the fire so those of us who are cut loose from the reps now will support him in the fall. We do not need a leftist in the Whitehouse whether he be a rep or a dem.

According to most of the Freepers, who consider "us" to Bushbashers and/or Bush haters, our votes don't amount to spit. The President will win the next election just fine without "us" they say. Why worry about what they have to say when they won't even give us the consideration of a decent debate?

I absolutely understand your feelings and your love for this country.
What you desire to accomplish is something that must be accomplished. I think where you and I disagree is in the method you propose. You believe you will send a message to the President/Republicans if you don't vote GOP but third party. I believe you will send a message also. The wrong kind.

Please hear me out now... I don't think just voting third party is going to accomplish anything because you are trying to solve the problem from the fruit down. It's like cutting the grass and cutting off the top of dandelions and believing you have solved your weed problem. You have not... the root is intact and the dandelion will grow back.

If you can't convince the people that they need to give up their entitlements for the economical health and security of the county... no politician, who espouses that they do will be elected.

That's why Howard Metzenbaum, (Ohio) only had to run one type of ad against any conservative running in Ohio. "That mean ole conservative is going to take away your social security." Worked like a dream every time. So what we have now in Ohio are two very centrist Republicans. The only kind that could be elected.

There has to be a fundamental shift away from the "give-me" state that was created since The Depression and back to fiscal responsibility. It's like turning a big ship of state. It's not going to happen over night. It won't happen if you stay home from the polls.. And it certainly won't happen if conservatives believe that the only work that needs to be done is a protest vote.

No... there is much needed education of the society that has to be conducted from the ground up. If we aren't willing to start there... then we are kidding ourselves.

Not to elect Bush is to elect Kerry. Yes... a message would have been sent... but not to the right "party." Those who remain in power will see that the entitlement train must be kept running or they are voted out. Right... Left... do not decide elections. The center decides election.

Personal interest versus national interest... there is really only one winner in that type of contest. The people have proven over and over that it is personal interest. And election results confirm this over and over again.

So, instead of cutting off our noses to spite our face... we need to vote for the President and work not just for conservative candidates, but work harder to teach the American people that they can't keep voting themselves money out of the pubic treasury... to do so will be the ruin of the nation.

"We need to start finding ways to move GWB back to the right quickly..."

It's too late. He has already spent the money.