[Polycarp IV]

I'd rather have people using contraception, than demanding abortion "rights".

If folks contracept, they will abort.

Planned Parenthood v. Casey, the US Supreme Court decision that confirmed Roe v. Wade [U.S. decision to permit abortions] stated “in some critical respects, abortion is of the same character as the decision to use contraception… for two decades of economic and social developments, people have organized intimate relationships and made choices that define their views of themselves and their places in society, in reliance on the availability of abortion in the event that contraception should fail”.

[Luis Gonzalez]

We have reached an impasse here.

You say that if folks use contraceptives, they will abort, and I say that if folks have sex without contraception, there will be unwanted pregnancies, which lead to the desire to abort.

I am a realist, and I don't see any way that you will ever convince people to quit having sex unless they're prepared to shoulder the responsibility.

While you claim that the use of contraception creates abortions, I will continue to argue that unprotected sex causes pregnancies, in which case, I see using contraceptives as a better alternative.