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You're still afraid to link those titles like I've asked because you know if you do people will see me defending Sun and Apple just as vigorously as Microsoft.

I support ALL US software companies in the face of foreign freeware. And I'm proud to say this last week I've personally converted someone who was running Red Hat Linux to reload that system with Sun Solaris Unix for Intel, a truly American product although it is currently having to be given away for free with the onslaught of Linux upon America's shores. Yes some of you will say free is better, but it's not, not for America's tech economy and not for us working in the industry.

Red Hat is NC-based. Suse is owned by Novell, which is sort of based in Utah (I think the HQ is in New Jersey now). Now that you've had this little geography lesson, I'm glad to see you coming on board.

I support ALL US software companies in the face of foreign freeware. And I'm proud to say this last week I've personally converted someone who was running Red Hat.

You're still afraid to link those titles like I've asked because you know if you do people will see me defending Sun and Apple just as vigorously as Microsoft.

I might include the individual URLS in TrollAlert version 1.2. It depends upon how long it will take to make.

And I'm proud to say this last week I've personally converted someone who was running Red Hat Linux to reload that system with Sun Solaris Unix for Intel, a truly American product although it is currently having to be given away for free with the onslaught of Linux upon America's shores

What a wonderful thing. Do realize that SUN is borrowing very heavily from those evil open-source types in their use of Gnome as the default desktop? SUN is also very suportive of the open source movement through their support of the SunFreeWare site.

The trouble for them is that the software world is leaving them behind. Their hardware still rocks in many ways, though they are not as competitive as they used to be.

BTW: unless you are running Solaris on SUN hardware, you really aren't doing anything for SUN except for possibly expanding mindshare by a small margin. SUN is a hardware company. They've never made all that much money on their OS or other hardware as a percentage of gross revenues. It is the support contracts, customer education srvices, and hardware that make the big cheese there. People don't get SUN equipment because it comes with Solaris. Rather the opposite is the case, they get Solaris because it runs on SUN hardware. We use a lot of SUN hardware where I work, and I can tell you it isn't the cheapness of the hardware that drives the purchases. Reliability and support are the major drivers. The average uptime of about 250 days for our SUN hardware is a bit less than the IBM boxes, which at present are standing at over 800 on several of them, but the AIX systems are on EOL at the moment and no real development beyond break/fix is happening.

"I support ALL US software companies in the face of foreign freeware. And I'm proud to say this last week I've personally converted someone who was running Red Hat Linux to reload that system with Sun Solaris Unix for Intel, a truly American product although it is currently having to be given away for free with the onslaught of Linux upon America's shores. Yes some of you will say free is better, but it's not, not for America's tech economy and not for us working in the industry."

That's funny, I find Solaris to be quite shitty without loading up gcc, gnu binutils, and a couple other goodies. Ya gotta admit, sun userland is caca. For the record, I have a dual processor sparc at home, and a fair sized pile of them at work. Did you notice BTW that you've been able to get Solaris for free, for years, for personal use?