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To: Veritas_est
""Now basic training is the same for all people, male and female. I am waiting for the day when they say women can enter the special forces. It doesn't mean everyone can do it, but it means that people should be given the opportunity to be assessed on their own merits."

Pure fantasy. Basic training has been changed to reflect the gender-differences.

"Recruit Honey...you just get down there and give me as many of them lil push-ups as you feel comfortable with in the next 2 minutes. Yes Recruit Honey...put yr knees on the ground...and its ok if yr back is not straight. Ok Recruit honey...we'll skip that nasty 'Ol crab walk up & back...and if you don't mind...can you try a pull-up over there? And Recruit Honey...don't worry about that heavy 'Ol 60 lb ruck on that road march in the field. Troopies don't have do that anymore."

Flame away if you need to. But there is a lot more to being a Soldier than is being presented. And as for the day when Recruit Honey gets her RANGER or SF Flash, well...stay indoors 'cause porcine fecal matter will be fallin' from the skies.

(can I p.o. anyone else today?)

15 posted on 01/28/2004 10:44:27 AM PST by Khurkris (Ranger On...)
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To: Khurkris
Flame away if you need to. But there is a lot more to being a Soldier than is being presented. And as for the day when Recruit Honey gets her RANGER or SF Flash, well...stay indoors 'cause porcine fecal matter will be fallin' from the skies.

There's a possible place in Ranger or SF units for some women, but it'd be for a very few- less than one in a hundred- just as Rangers and SF hardly represent the average grunt, either. And SDOD-Delta has had female *friends* who help make their penetrations more effective; *everybody knows* the USA doesn't have any female SF operators, right?

But I really think the most likely place for female soldiers in combat would be in armor. Aside from the loader's position duties, there's a minimum of strength, particularly upper body strength required for being a tank crewman- and an automatic loader could take care of such requirements in that respect, in future tank designs if not in today's Abrams.

Women are turning out to be pretty decent F16 and A10 pilots- even the Israelis have a female F16 driver now- and a few could surely be found who could handle the driver's and gunner's jobs in a tank. Though the thought of an idiot female 2nd Lieutenant tank platoon scares me to death, the same is just as frightening when considering some such male counterparts. But I'd bet it could be made to happen more effectively in Armor than in Infantry, Artillery, or the Combat Engineers.

18 posted on 01/28/2004 1:38:31 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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