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Selling out the US to Mexico & selling sacrificing the Christians in China on the alter of trade are things that I am not sure I can forgive Bush for.

What are our alternatives right now?

Keeping control of the House and Senate and showing the GOP that they should do what is right and not what is political expedient.

I am off to bed. I will respond to any responses in 12 hours.

Ever hear of grid lock?

At least then you have a check and balance system, democrats won't give in to the Republicans, Republicans won't give in to the democrats.

In an ideal America, the politicians at all levels of government would strive to do what is best for the nation irregardless of party affiliation.

If the President would lead by example on this issue as he has on so many others, there would be no questions about his conservatism; as the conservative point of view is the one which is true to form with the Founders original Republic. (Although it used to be that the liberals were the ones who stood up for personal liberty, rather than the authoritarians they are today. By the old standard, most of us in here would be called liberals.)

The votes will follow whoever it is that does what is right for the US. Those on the left can lie and deceive all they want, but in the end even the dumbest voters begin to see through their scam if there is an honest American alternative. The president is in danger because he is blurring the line between the parties too well. The response to this proposal show that the voting public won't stand for another amnesty, and it is a terrible waste of political clout that was driven by expediency. After the previous 8 years of expediency, the voters recognize it very quickly now.

When were the president's rating numbers the highest? Back when he was telling the UN that they were irrelevant, and that the US was a sovereign nation that would defend its' interests. His numbers have been the lowest when he is kissing the UNs and other nations butts - especially Mexico, Canada, and France. Rove is politically out of touch and should not be the one giving the president advice any longer, IMHO.