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Republicans warn Bush on immigration policy
Washington Times ^ | 1/28/04 | Valerie Richardson

Posted on 01/27/2004 10:30:57 PM PST by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:12:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: LaurieB
The drawbacks of course is all those people out there who cannot hold on to a dime for anything - some could but don't - some just can't - not enough money.

I know, that's why I proposed it as something to replace insurance that people have through their employers. Once someone signed up for the plan, the money would actually go into an account that couldn't be used for anything other than medical expenses...until any remainder might be taken as taxable income on retirement or death (by heirs). Maybe, you could borrow against any overage (above and beyond the deductible)...like a 401K...don't know...just brainstorming and tossing around ideas.

I even thought, that to combat any resistance by insurance companies..they could get into the business of managing individual medical savings accounts...most of them are in the retirement or pension business, anyway.

Picture this, the account would be like a money market..drawing some small measure of interest for it's holder. A card (like an ATM) could be issued. Then, when you went to the Doctor, YOUR money could be automatically withdrawn with one swipe. Again, it would be YOUR money, so you would have incentive not to spend it without necessity.

Imagine the joy of the Doc's...not to have to deal with the insurance paperwork and dictates.

Of course, the catastrophic policy would kick in for any major events, but people would still have an incentive to save up to cover any non-covered items.

As far as those without means to have any insurance, tax breaks might give employers an incentive to start to offer something like this. Even if we can get SOME additional employers to offer insurance, we would be better off.

Thanks for the reply...let me know if you have any additional ideas...maybe we can solve the "health care crisis" right here on FR. We'd better get credit, though!

241 posted on 01/28/2004 9:06:01 PM PST by garandgal (Capitalism works wonderfully amongst a moral people)
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To: LaurieB
A hurricane wash them out to sea.

Could not happen to a nicer group!!

LOL

242 posted on 01/28/2004 11:30:35 PM PST by calawah98
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To: LaurieB
That is odd. You dont want mexicans to move to your country and yet you speak of moving to norway. What if they decided - they dont want americans, because [...insert your favourite reason here...]?
just wondering
243 posted on 02/09/2004 6:38:49 PM PST by ani
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To: narby
I am tired of these same old lame arguments. GW has lost my vote already. He now has to earn it again. I GW can not do the will of the people that elected him, it is time to move on.
244 posted on 02/09/2004 6:44:31 PM PST by devane617
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To: Texasforever
The quickest way for these guys to get Bush's stubborn streak in high gear is to threaten him.

Who gives a damn about someone's stubbornness when our country is literally being over run with third world illegal aliens.

245 posted on 02/09/2004 6:49:38 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Jorge
For the so called conservatives who threaten not to support Bush in November, the issue is off the table long before the election. But for those he impressed by the proposal, he still looks like the good guy.

Huh?

246 posted on 02/09/2004 6:51:32 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: calawah98
In other words, you are saying, he will do WHAT HE WANTS, not what THE PEOPLE, who he represents want?

That's it, exactly. This is the same kind of willful arrogance Clinton used when he double-crossed his gay supporters over gays in the military. Worse, the gay supporters of Bill Clinton were a small part of his liberal base. He could afford to stab them in the back. Bush is turning on the core constituency that got him there.

Is Dubya so arrogant (or brain-dead, take your pick) to think he can expect a Reaganesque-type landslide in November? Because that's the way he's acting.

247 posted on 02/09/2004 6:58:07 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Texasforever
The quickest way for these guys to get Bush's stubborn streak in high gear is to threaten him.

And the quickest way for Bush to find himself back in Texas for an early retirement to turn on the very constituency that got him where he is.

248 posted on 02/09/2004 6:59:59 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Huh?

Go back and read it again.

It's a political calculation.
After I posted that, I heard the same exact take suggested on the Rush show. Great minds think alike.

249 posted on 02/09/2004 7:21:55 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Euro-American Scum; Don Joe
Second shift?
Good luck!
Dont you know you are a racist, liberal, Bush hating Democrat if you even dare voice your dissent against a repeat of a failed policy even former President Ronald Reagan said was wrong?
Shut up and drink the Kool-aid!
I have heard that grape is the preferred flavor!
250 posted on 02/09/2004 7:24:11 PM PST by sarasmom (No war for oil=Give France/Russia/China etc oil ,and no war-or so Saddam thought.)
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To: Jorge
But for those he impressed by the proposal, he still looks like the good guy.

Right....

251 posted on 02/09/2004 7:28:48 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Hoverbug
If some people around here were TRYING to drive conservative voters away from Bush, they couldn't be doing a better job of it. Lies, personal attacks, ridicule, pile ons, and in general just TRYING to make people angry, all the while claiming to be the voice of sanity.

You got that right.

252 posted on 02/09/2004 7:47:59 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along)
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To: PhiKapMom
I am very surprised you refuse to understand the jeopardy President Bush has placed his re-election campaign in over this issue.
Is there any issue President Bush could announce his position on, that would cross your personal line in the sand?
Or have you been 100% behind every action and inaction he has signed into law?
If he signs the AWB into law, will that also be OK with you?
I am really curious.
Is there nothing that President Bush proposes or actually does, that would make you question your support for him?

253 posted on 02/09/2004 8:22:53 PM PST by sarasmom (No war for oil=Give France/Russia/China etc oil ,and no war-or so Saddam thought.)
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To: ani
Well, for one thing I am a Norweigen - I don't think they'd mind.
254 posted on 02/09/2004 10:32:07 PM PST by LaurieB (It just goes to show you......)
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To: Rodney King
Thanks Rodney. But be careful. You'll find yourself being invited to leave FR by Jim Robinson as I was.

Hb
255 posted on 02/14/2004 9:49:03 PM PST by Hoverbug
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To: Rodney King
On second thought, screw it! Speak your mind here and see what it brings ya.

Fair use my arse.

Hb
256 posted on 02/14/2004 10:06:18 PM PST by Hoverbug
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257 posted on 09/04/2004 10:43:03 PM PDT by primeval patriot (I'll stay in cowtown, I'll stick around)
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