[wizardoz]

Oh, we know Europeans know wars. We've watched them start plenty, which is why I don't know where they get off telling us that they can do it but we can't, without their permission. And we notice they tend to s**t where they eat, so we wonder why they think they're smarter than we are.

[MarkeyD]

And I wonder if our cultural disconnect comes from two very different experiences of war.

Yes, we win most of ours.

[Lazarus Starr]

You Hit the nail on the head wizardoz. I don't mind europeans being anti-war. I mind them saying they are when they obviously aren't. Their wars are important and ours are empire building wars for oil. They're not only cowardly; They are ignorant and base.

-Laz

[Lucky Dog]

They [Europeans] still live in the shadow of two unthinkable wars, and have learnt that patriotism and courageous instincts have too often resulted in corruption, destruction and death.

This typical liberal “bent” logic. Rather than attribute the “two unthinkable wars” to the real sources such as ideology and economic clashes, the liberals cite “patriotism and courageous instincts.” There seems to no shortage of Lenin’s “useful idiots,” especially, the liberal variety, running around Europe.

[saradippity]

They may have started plenty but we were always there whenever the "right" people called us. For all we know most Europeans were probably just pawns in whatever game their rulers were playing and in many cases didn't even believe the cause was justified.

Let us hope and pray that with the plethora of information now available to the average person we are better able to know the truth and base decisions on fact and truth and not what we are told is fact or truth.

Remember 40,000,000 Europeans died in the war over there,it must have been horrendous.

[js1138]

You managed to say what I had intended to say -- and more -- in the very first response to this thread.