[Zeroisanumber]

I think the only leg this story has is Kerrys contention that it was 'Nixons war.' That is a lie. Not only didn't Nixon start that war, he pulled us out of it. I am not sure what logic he is using...but I would like to see someone ask him in a debate.

Blah...Vietnam wasn't Nixon's war, but since Kerry's a Democrat he uses the Republican as a convienient donkey to pin it on. Not too unusual, when you think about it we did the same thing to Clinton over Somalia.

[NeonKnight]

Yes, Somalia was an odd little adventure that nobody really understood anyway. I do hold daddy Bush responsible for that one. I know it was sold as humanitarian...but there was no real plan to solve the crises. I don't think Marines can do much about poverty. But it was nowhere near the scale of VN. I think we lost around 20 lives.

[Nix 2]

You are nuts, man. Clinton changed the Mission in Somalia. What happened in Mogadishu can be lain directly at his feet. Don't try to teach a history you don't know anything about. So far, you have defended a traitor, (Kerry) defended another traitor, (Clinton,) and frankly, I am beginning to wonder about YOU! Zero is a very good number if you are counting nothing.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

RE: "Not too unusual, when you think about it we did the same thing to Clinton over Somalia."

Okay, you cannot substantiate your Vietnam feeeeeeeeeeeeelings (see my post above, please), how about Somalia? President Bush sent aid there owing almost entirely to CNN's wall-to-wall coverage of the very real human problems there.

Later under Clinton it bacame a "nation building" effort. Remember the issue of "mission creep?"

"we did the same thing to Clinton over Somalia" is simply wrong. Yes, there was justified criticism of Clinton but saying "we did the same thing to Clinton over Somalia" vis-a-vis conservative crticism of 1960s liberals is wrong.