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Navy relieves submarine commander of duties [USS Jimmy Carter]
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Posted on 01/27/2004 8:11:02 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Navy relieves submarine commander of duties Tuesday January 27, 2004 GROTON, Conn. (AP) The Navy has relieved a submarine commander of his duties, saying it lost confidence in his abilities to command.

Cmdr. David J. Bartholomew Jr. assumed command of the Jimmy Carter about a year ago. The Seawolf-class submarine is still under construction at Electric Boat in Groton.

Bartholomew would have overseen the submarine's joining the fleet in 2005.

The Navy released few details about the incident.

Commanders are typically dismissed when the ``command climate'' of a ship is threatened, said Lt. Philip R. Rosi, a Navy spokesman.

``The decisions made by Cmdr. Bartholomew led to, or could have led to, the degradation of good order and discipline,'' Rosi said.

Bartholomew was temporarily reassigned to the staff of Submarine Group Two at the base, pending further disciplinary or administrative action, Rosi said.

Bartholomew, a native of Medfield, Mass., is a 1983 graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy. He made two demanding Mediterranean deployments as captain of the USS Annapolis.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: submarine; usn; ussjimmycarter
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To: Sub-Driver
...to be replaced by Capt. McHale.
41 posted on 01/27/2004 8:42:31 AM PST by clintonh8r ("Hugh" and "series" are SO last year....)
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To: cynicom
"Navy has relieved a few others in the past year. Annapolis aint what it use to be."

I read a few years back that the Navel Academy dropped celestial navigation and the sextant from its curriculum. I guess they think GPS will always be available for use. What if a ship sinks and the GPS in the lifeboat doesn't work? I guess everybody is considered fish food. Really bad to drop those traditions. I was in the regular Army 30 years ago, and it would like dropping land navigation and map reading from Basic Training, just because some electronic gizmos are available. I like things more simple and use the following life motto: "WWHD"-- What Would Hawkeye Do?
42 posted on 01/27/2004 8:44:09 AM PST by Lockbar
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To: Poohbah
Yeah, I called a bud when I saw the post this morning to get the dirty details. JO complained to superiors after wife admitted relationship. The pussy didnt have the nerve to 'confront' his boss.
43 posted on 01/27/2004 8:44:32 AM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Poohbah
A really good doctor is buried by his patients.
44 posted on 01/27/2004 8:46:45 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: MistrX
Johnny_C got it right. The chiefs are the senior enlisted guys upon whom the command depends to keep the crew pointed in the right direction.
45 posted on 01/27/2004 8:48:01 AM PST by j_tull
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To: Pukin Dog; hchutch
Yeah, I called a bud when I saw the post this morning to get the dirty details. JO complained to superiors after wife admitted relationship. The pussy didnt have the nerve to 'confront' his boss.

Maybe he thought he was too likely to go postal.

I was in a squadron where the skipper was boinking a JO's wife.

The JO (a mustang) figured he could just do what the Army calls "wall-to-wall counseling."

You really can't do that to a short colonel, though. But the JO kicked the crap outta the guy.

46 posted on 01/27/2004 8:48:06 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: 68skylark; dwilli
I worked at Army Selection Boards many years ago. Nine times out of ten
career enders are associated with booze and/or p-tang (or it's equivalent). The rest seemed to have to do with money, but even in those cases they may have stemmed from what got the others.
47 posted on 01/27/2004 8:48:31 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: newgeezer
I'd rather ship out on the Queeg than the Carter, anyday.
48 posted on 01/27/2004 8:50:47 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Doctor Stochastic
I like that. There are some very good ones out there.
49 posted on 01/27/2004 8:51:17 AM PST by cynicom
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To: j_tull
Navy removes submarine commander
The officer in charge of the Jimmy Carter has been reassigned.
By BRIAN LYMAN
Norwich Bulletin




The Navy removed the commander of a submarine this weekend after what officials are calling a "loss of confidence" in his ability to command.

Cmdr. David Bartho-lomew, Jr., commanding officer of the Jimmy Carter, under construction at Electric Boat, has been reassigned to the staff of Rear Adm. Joseph A. Walsh, commander of Submarine Group Two and Navy Region Northeast, which oversees the Atlantic Fleet submarine attack squadrons.

"He's been relieved of command," said Lt. Philip Rosi, spokesman for Submarine Group Two. "That is an administrative proceeding, and that is the result of the preliminary investigation."

Rosi would not comment further on the reasons for the removal. A statement from the Navy said Bartholomew's transfer was "pending further administrative or disciplinary action as appropriate."

Capt. Robert D. Kelso, deputy chief of staff of Submarine Development Squadron 12 in New London, has been appointed interim commander of the ship until a new one is named.

Bartholomew, a 1983 graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, had been commanding officer of the ship, designated a precommissioning unit, since last May. The Jimmy Carter, a Seawolf-class submarine, will have a crew of approximately 140 and join the fleet in 2005. Rosi said the removal would not affect the delivery schedule.

Because the submarine was still under construction, Bartholomew reported directly to Walsh, who initiated the removal.

"An officer who's in command is in a unique position of trust and responsibility," Rosi said. "He has a key role to play in shaping morale. It's a unique position because his superiors have to have full confidence in his ability to command."

The Jimmy Carter is the last of three Seawolf submarines under construction. The USS Seawolf was commissioned in 1997 and the USS Connecticut followed a year later. According to Wikipedia, an online encyclopedia, the Jimmy Carter is 100 feet longer than its sister ships and has been modified for "highly classified missions and the testing of new submarine systems."

The ship was named for Carter, a graduate of the Naval Academy, because he is the only president who ever served in the submarine service.


http://www.norwichbulletin.com/news/stories/20040127/localnews/298767.html
50 posted on 01/27/2004 8:53:04 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Pukin Dog
Adultery is still an offense under UCMJ, but the military usually walks around it anymore.
51 posted on 01/27/2004 8:56:14 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: Sub-Driver
USS Jimmy Carter (SSN-23) is the third and last of the Seawolf class submarines. She has been specially modified for highly classified missions and testing of new submarine systems. She is named after former President Jimmy Carter, who served in the US Navy as an officer and nuclear engineer and is afraid of rabbits.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ok, I admit, I added the rabbit part.

52 posted on 01/27/2004 8:58:12 AM PST by Condor51 ("Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites." -- Standing Wolf)
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To: Sub-Driver
So the three subs in the class are the USS Seawolf, the USS Connecticut, and the USS Jimmy Carter? What naming convention are they using for this class? Whatever strikes Congress as a good idea the day the funding is appropriated?
53 posted on 01/27/2004 9:00:36 AM PST by gridlock (If Dean is the Anti-Bush and Clark is the Anti-Dean, does Bush=Clark?!?)
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To: Uncle Fud
Oh, dear!

Belly laugh.
54 posted on 01/27/2004 9:01:29 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: gridlock
What naming convention are they using for this class?

Attack subs used to be named after fish and boomers after cities. But, as somebody once sagely noted, "Fish don't vote."

55 posted on 01/27/2004 9:01:52 AM PST by Johnny_Cipher (Miserable failure = http://www.michaelmoore.com/ sounds good to me!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Interesting... What else is there to this story?
56 posted on 01/27/2004 9:02:22 AM PST by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: pabianice
I'd like to know . . .

What their political convictions were.

How many were globalists vs anti-globalists?

etc.
57 posted on 01/27/2004 9:02:32 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: dwilli
Plausible to me.

It's gotta leak out at some point.

I wonder if he was overly lax in discipline or overly prissy.
58 posted on 01/27/2004 9:03:55 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: j_tull
Any pic available?
59 posted on 01/27/2004 9:04:42 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: j_tull
That could be true. The submarine force has lost some of their best during the Clintons.
60 posted on 01/27/2004 9:04:56 AM PST by bmwcyle (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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