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To: Gerasimov
I've posted my "evidence" on the matter. although again I will be sure to say that my "evidence" relies mostly on faith. I, at least, can be genuine about that matter; I have yet to meet an evolutionist who will admit that his is a religion more than a science.

We need to work on our definitions here. "Faith" (as that term has been used by philosophers for 25 centuries) involves belief in the absense of evidence or logical proof. "Evidence" is a term usually reserved for data which is available for inspection or verification. (In the case of historical matters, there are protocols for judging the reliability of ancient sources, but this isn't an issue in biology.} "Religion" is a belief system that is grounded in matters that are not in evidence, but which are taken on faith. "Science" involves the rational attempt to describe and explain the evidence of the natural world, and a scientific theory is a model which attempts to explain the data (evidence) and which makes predictions that could, in principle, cause the theory to be falsified.

I'm not making this stuff up. Definitions may vary, but not too much. The theory of evolution is most definitely not a religion. It is science.

You stoop to name calling and personal attacks because you have reached a point where you are out of "evidence" and all your previous evidence has been nothing of the sort. I'm still looking for a post showing the evolution of one kind to another (You won't post that, because there is none) but instead you bore me with the tired argument that because speciation is possible, a greater evolution must be possible, too, even though we cannot observe it, test it, or recreate it. Junk science at it's best.

There's a load of evidence. Verifiable evidence. Stuff you can go see and touch. I don't recall if any of this has been posted in this thread before, but anyway, here's a sampling:
Observed Instances of Speciation .
Some More Observed Speciation Events .
Transitional Fossil Species And Modes of Speciation . (Scroll down a bit to find a ton of stuff.)

304 posted on 01/31/2004 9:21:47 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
You must have missed this part:

I'm still looking for a post showing the evolution of one kind to another

But thanks for the links anyway. At the risk of doing the broken record routine I'll write it again. You cannot show a fossil record with any amount of completeness to be able to demonstrate one kind of animal evolving to another. Let me break it down so even an evolutionist can understand... I'm quite impressed that a short, brown, horsey might evolve into a taller, tan horsey, but that does not mean the horsey was ever a fishy.

Huge gaps in the geologic record = no verifiable evidence that evolution of the type necessary to make men out of muck ever happened.

305 posted on 01/31/2004 10:36:42 AM PST by Gerasimov (My last tag line sucked, so now I have this one.)
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