I am so sorry. I got you mixed up with another poster (the originator of this whole string of posts) who claimed the 'zero' thing. Your psots were to my response to that post and I erroneously thought you were him (I've been posting a fair amount today and the string of 'my comments', including assorted bumps, is getting quite long and difficult to reference. I understand how we have been on entirely different subjects now. I again apologize for the confusion, it's apparently all or mostly my fault. It isn't lies, it's carelessness and I must have sounded seriously confused to you at best (which I definitely was).
BTW, do we agree that goverment surveilance is objectionable to a free people and not a conservative principle? That's what my position is, nothing else.
And I'll accept the apology, though frankly, I don't believe the premise of it at all.
There are some VALID reasons,for the government to do some surveillance on the populace. Unlike you, I am a Conservative, but one who doesn't think that a FREE COUNTRY, means that there are few laws, people will always do the right thing, and that being a Conservative makes one oblivious to reality.
Rush got " caught " NOT by banking regs, but by Dems, who went after everything they could, twisted LEGAL dealings, and I'm talking about doing exactly what the law said ones could do, without any government agency sticking their nose into.
Sorry, this is one conservative who was damn glad of it when I had a stalker calling me dozens of times a day stating he was going to rape me. Since this fella had already punctured all my car tires one day while I was at work, this was not a threat to take lightly.
Apparently Libertarians would have told me that the government had no right to tap the phone calls and I was out of luck until I actually did get raped.