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Unfortunately, I have used all of your arguments before. I was known on this site as one of the loudest opponents to Mexican immigration, but have since realized that waving my fist does NOTHING. Your comments do not solve any problems. They just generate more hate. Kicking out all the illegals is not only impossible but will open a few other cans of worms. If you have some credible solutions, let's hear them instead of just throwing insults.

Not until SOMEONE thinks of some reasonable ideas, will anything get done. I thank president Bush for opening the dialogue, and can't wait to see where this debate goes. It can only help. Solutions won't come about until we can really find a feasible solution. Nothing important is ever easy; it just comes down to getting a PERMANENT solution to what we want without destroying everything around us, and not spending all our money on it.

start by letting employers enquire about citizenship status when the irs contacts them regarding the ss no. that an employee is using. and let them contact the INS.

also require proof of residency, I had get SS nos for my kids so i could prove they exsisted to the IRS for tax perposes. (I'd also require photo ID's for voting, if you're to darn lazy to wander to the liecense bureau to get a legal photo ID you're to darn lazy to vote, oh and voter registration should not be done through a liecense renewal)

but most importantly start FINING the employers who are breaking the law knowingly NOW. make it hurt for them and they'll hopefully think twice about their cheap labor. If these people truely have no documentation they can't prove who they are for welfare so they shouldn't get that either.

And yeah i have enough compassion to feel sorry for them but the disabled person in my life is more deserving of any money i'm forced to pay into the system then someone who came here by BREAKING the law. And unfortunately with the pressure put on programs by illegals who can't speak english (interpeters aren't free) the US citizens in true need have a hard time getting the help they actually need.

Your comments do not solve any problems. They just generate more hate. >>>>>>

MY comments ??

Care to address any of the following ??

Your comment that, "illegals money is theirs to spend (remit), because our gov't does not tell me how to *spend* my money ?? (TAXES) This supports our govt's actions, TAX the citizens, & ignore the BILLION per month that goes to mexico, ALONE.

How 'bout GWB's 'proposal' that TAXPAYERS fund another gov't agency to 'track' 10 million (plus) REWARDED illegals & their employers. Rather than punish these 'tax evaders' as we would our own citizens. This 'proposal' also, 'legalizes' line jumping, thereby punishing those wanting to come to the USA legally the FIRST time.

If GWB WAS serious about catching illegal employers, he wouldn't have just signed the VOLUNTARY nation wide program for employers to verify SS#'s. (Dec. 2003)

How 'bout the FIRST statement that Fox made about the 'proposal' was that, "It's not enough, we want more", HOWEVER, a couple days later (after 'private' meeting with GWB), Fox says, "the'proposal' is great, & each of the 5 million now 'legalized', will be able to bring up to 5 family members NORTH with them (25 million more).

Seems to me any, or all of the above are creating more hate to-wards illegals, than anything I post about them. Most especially, Fox/Mexico's DEMANDS for more mexican 'rights' in the USA, that far exceed some of the 'rights' they have in mexico.

If you have some credible solutions, >>>>>>>>>>>

Many good (fair) solutions have been posted many times.....

MANDATORY SS# checks for employers, & FINE the ones employing illegals.
End ALL gov't 'freebies' for illegals immediately, including 'anchor baby' laws.
Stop the 'revolving' doors at our borders. First time your caught sneaking in, 5 yrs. before you can legally try to enter.

Ya know, if our gov't is NOT serious about ENFORCING our immigration laws, NO ONE will ever be serious about obeying them.

Kicking out all the illegals is not only impossible but will open a few other cans of worms.

I agree with that --- but who said it's got to be all or nothing? Police ticket speeders they catch --- but they don't get all of them, murderers who are caught are put in prison, but some murderers run loose --- that doesn't mean we just don't catch any.

They should start with those committing serious crime like felony document fraud and that should be easy enough by cleaning out the Social Security number database and going after Identity theft --- that should gain them permanent deportation with no rights to visit here ever. Deport those illegals getting caught driving with no license and insurance, DWI's, shoplifting, gang membership, etc etc. End the practice of anchor babies, especially those whose mothers never intend to pay their hospital bill and also use their babies for welfare checks, foods stamps and the rest. Cut all that off. No more government freebies of any kind.

They won't catch 100% this way --- but they'll have gotten the very worst types out of here.