The Cannabis Catastrophe (Pot softens brains: Stoners don't care)

The Daily Mail [UK] ^ | January 26 2003 | Melanie Phillips

[Doc Savage]

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[Lazamataz]

....I was so paranoid I couldn’t leave the house.....

That right there tells me we've got a lying sack of s**t on our hands.

Pot never once made me paranoid.

Cocaine, now THAT makes you PARANOID. Peeking at the windows, convinced cops are following you, watching you....

[eboyer]

I know just enough about Islam to be positive that what you are writing is a load of rich creamery butter.

In fact I believe your idea of conservatism is much closer to Islamic beliefs then it is to actual conservatism.

Contrary to what you have been taught, conservatism isn't about shoving your beliefs down another's throat.

...And Islamics are very much against any recreational drug use, including MJ.

[Monty22]

No, islamics are not against pot. You must feel so positive about pot that you can't imagine anyone bad using it. Which, oddly, is the most warped thinking I can imagine ever.

I hope you don't feel that way, but since you were taking wild guesses about me, I will about you.

[LittleJoe]

Please quote stats for that. I've read the drug problem was reduced (at that time). At the very least, less drug addicts.

Google will give you 45,500 hits on it. China actually invented the title "War On Drugs". It began when the communists took over in 1949 and instituted the "Peoples War On Drugs".

The number of people executed range from the hundreds of thousands to millions. Amnesty International is actually more conservative than others in numbers executed, so I'll quote them below. Keep in mind that their War On Drugs has never reduced addiction and even they admit that. They continue to execute drug addicts today.

This is from Amnesty International's report to the UN, who supports China's War On Drugs. The communist countries and other repressive dictatorships, (Stalin, Hitler and Saddam Insane) for example, have always had a War On Drugs. We are the first free country in history to wage this kind of war on its own citizens.

"Amnesty International has recorded at least 2,960 death sentences and 1,781 executions in China in the three months from April to June 2001. These figures, taken from a limited number of sources, show that more people were executed in China between April and June than in the rest of the world for the last three years. Despite the massive use of the death penalty for drug-related offences reports still indicate that China's drug problem is continuing to grow."

[eboyer]

For the second time, I am not defending Pot.

I am correcting a ridiculous claim by you that supporting Islam means supporting pot.

[tacticalogic]

That right there tells me we've got a lying sack of s**t on our hands.

Plus, she's so paranoid she can't leave the house, and has no social skills - but she knows hundreds of people who smoke pot (and they're all paranoid too - they just don't know it).

[AuntB]

I'd vote for your proposition.

[Monty22]

Well, my assassin comment sticks. And it's a known fact to anyone that has been to the middle east that it is rampant in islamic lands.

Get over it, it's just how it is.

[missyme]

My former husband A Los Angeles Cop got me to try Cocaine,
(In the crazy 80's) anyways it is highly addicting, and offered a false sense of well being that you were always trying to re-capture. I stopped before it became CRACK. Pot does not do the same thing in the least...Nicotine is harder to stop than POT.

[SkyRat]

The verb is khashîsh, "Hashish", means in Arabic no more than dried herb. Wich could be anything. The greek also had "Kannabis", which, I believe, means mushroom.

Anyway, what I tried to say was that I think it's highly unlikely the assassins used Hashish in any special way. As I said probably more something like opium, perhaps some other herb as belladonna.

So, I think Webster is actually wrong with the entry 1.

Reminds me, some time ago Webster defined atheist as someone "who denies the existence of a god".

History books are better for solving this question.

[eboyer]

It's also rampant here.

Does that mean it is endorsed by christianity?

There is not a single islamic nation that allows for the legal use of MJ.

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Marijuana, from its stronghold in India, moved westward through Persia, Assyria and Arabia by 500 A.D. With the rising power of Islam, marijuana flourished flourished in a popular form as hashish. In 1378, the Emir Soudon Sheikhouni tried to end the use of Indian hashish by destroying all such plants, and imprisoning all users (first removing their teeth for good measure). Yet in a few years marijuana consumption had increased.[1]

[Monty22]

My frigging first point was to deny that if islamics started to use, they'd be friendlier. I think I've made the point, I *hope*, by now.

Jeez, get with it.

[little jeremiah]

Thanks for the stats. They are slightly confusing, and don't change my position in the slightest. The drug problem is much deeper than just eradicating supply or punishing traffickers, but that is no reason to stop eradicating supply and punishing traffickers.

Example - just because people still murder other people, despite laws against it and [not severe enough] punishment is not a good reason to stop punishing murder or make it legal.

My solution takes care of those who insist on using, and takes the money and therefore crime out of it. Plus people who use will also learn gardening skills.

[Cultural Jihad]

And what if its consumption is tolerated by Islamic cultures? What is the point of your assertion?

[LK12]

That person definitely had a problem and I don't believe it was marijuana.

I've been around the MJ culture for 26 years. I've seen months pass by without anyone I know, able to find any weed. What to do about it? Go fishing, hunting, dating girls etc. Anything but worry about the matter. Being without MJ is not a big deal. Those that talk about that strong addiction craving stuff are trying to blow smoke up someone's tail pipe.
As far as aberrant behavior None, Maybe an excessive amount of laughter, but not hostile, prone to theft etc.

It does have one very strong good quality. It increases blood flow especially in the extremities--which makes for improved male sex performance. Viagra without the associated life threatening risks.

[#3Fan]

I became paranoid as soon as I started smoking it. I’ve known hundreds of people who smoke it; all of them have some kind of paranoia or a problem, whether they recognise it or not.’

Sometimes it's a pain in the ***. A few years ago in my running around days I had a lot of friends that were drinkers and a few that were stoners. I had 4 or 5 people in my car one night going to a party down by the river and the girl in the front with me was a stoner and I came upon a big puddle, the stoner girl didn't want to go through it but the otheres didn't mind and I went ahead and gave it hell and got through it. After getting through it the stoner girl insisted I take her back to town and drop her off because she "couldn't take things like that anymore". I couldn't believe it.

[Monty22]

Go back and read my original post on the subject.. C'mon guys.