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Howard Dean's 'smart ID' plan; called for national ID card and ID's in PCs.
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| 01/26/04
| Declan McCullagh
Posted on 01/26/2004 9:56:48 AM PST by Pikamax
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posted on
01/26/2004 9:56:48 AM PST
by
Pikamax
To: Pikamax
..."We must move to smarter license cards that carry secure digital information that can be universally read at vital checkpoints,"...
Halt!
Papieren bitte!
To: Pikamax
Very interesting. Previously I could see why they'd want to inject an ID chip into one's hand...but the forehead didn't make as much sense. But if a computer is going to sense the chip for someone sitting in front of it the forehead makes perfect sense.
To: Pikamax
Dean's death nell.
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posted on
01/26/2004 10:01:04 AM PST
by
A Navy Vet
(Can I get a no down guarantee on a 32 ft SeaRay, please?)
To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
"vital checkpoints"
STASI ALERT
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posted on
01/26/2004 10:01:05 AM PST
by
agitator
(The 9th Amendment says what?)
To: Pikamax
Embedding smart cards into uniform IDs was necessary to thwart "cyberterrorism" and identity theft, Dean claimed. "We must move to smarter license cards that carry secure digital information that can be universally read at vital checkpoints,"
I thought the old USSR was dead....
Scary
To: A Navy Vet
Don't kid yourself -- all the other Dem candidates want it too (and some pubbies), maybe even Dubya and Ashcroft -- its just interesting Dean was stupid enough to tell the truth.
To: Pikamax
....."Apple Computer, Dell, Gateway and Sony should be required to include an ID card reader in PCs...."
Hmmmm, why only these brands?
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posted on
01/26/2004 10:05:37 AM PST
by
EggsAckley
(..................**AMEND** the Fourteenth Amendment......(There, is THAT better?).................)
To: skip2myloo
all the other Dem candidates want it too (and some pubbies), maybe even Dubya and Ashcroft
I could easily see Ashcroft requesting this....
To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
What is funny is that the phonycons
David Frum and Richard Perle advocate virtually the same thing in their book that was received well by the 'hawks' on this site.
And there is only one system that will do the job: a national identity card that registers the bearer's name and biometric data, like fingerprints or retinal scans or DNA, and that indicates whether the bearer is a citizen, a permanent resident, or a temporary resident... (pg 70)
I can only figure that Dean is going for the vulnerable neoconservative vote and the soccermom vote that just loves trading liberties for the promise of security.
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posted on
01/26/2004 10:10:24 AM PST
by
JohnGalt
("...but both sides know who the real enemy is, and, my friends, it is us.")
To: skip2myloo
I agree entirely with what you have said.
I am afraid this merely a matter of when, and not a matter of if.
To: EggsAckley
Why only these brands? Read it again:
computer makers such as Apple Computer, Dell, Gateway and Sony...
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posted on
01/26/2004 10:12:23 AM PST
by
Izzy Dunne
(Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
To: Pikamax
``Constitutional principles of equality, liberty and privacy'' dictate a need for a national identification card and a state license to operate a computer? Newspeak doubleplus ungood!
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posted on
01/26/2004 10:13:19 AM PST
by
Liberal Classic
(No better friend, no worse enemy.)
To: skip2myloo
You have a point.
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posted on
01/26/2004 10:15:24 AM PST
by
A Navy Vet
(Can I get a no down guarantee on a 32 ft SeaRay, please?)
To: skip2myloo
Don't kid yourself -- all the other Dem candidates want it too (and some pubbies), maybe even Dubya and Ashcroft Correct.
Dean is just a loose cannon who speaks his mind, but he's not the only one for a national ID.
Besides, the current scheme of hooking up the state Driver's License with the federal Social Security Number has created a de facto national ID already.
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To: Pikamax
Nice way to kill Linux.
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posted on
01/26/2004 10:17:22 AM PST
by
DMCA
(TITLE 17 Chapter 1 Sec 107 (HI PRBC !!!))
To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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posted on
01/26/2004 10:17:30 AM PST
by
stopsign
("What great fortune for government. That people don't think"...Der Fuher... [hummmm...])
To: JohnGalt
It's all but inevitable now.
The window for escape is closing rapidly.
The sound of marching boots draws nearer all the time.
To: Pikamax
Guttural? Dean's scream falls into the range of "falsetto." It is the upper, non-chest range vocal performers use to gain a pure, simple, near sine-wave tone. There were entire operas (choral pieces) written during the Renaissance for adult male tenors who, before puberty, had been castrated. The resultant "castratto" tenor maintained that pure upper register with the added resonance of an adult nasal/sinus cavity (the ability to resonate and project = volume). I'm not suggesting Dean-me-boyo is a castratto (I wouldn't dare). Just an "oh by the way!"
If everyone in the country is inflicted with these cards, they will have to:
Remember a password to validate the info on the card.
Remember a password to edit and verify the value on the card.
Understand that the card is the primary token and without it, they could be cut off from services they "have a right to"
Recognize that even with a "security" chip on the card, if a computer is used to create it, a computer can be used to copy/recreate/abuse that very card.........as easily as though the dirt-bag had the card on his person.
Realize that a national ID card is not a way to control terrorists, but a way to control serfs!
Stay alert for this kind of lunacy. If it pops up in the current (hopefully future) administration, it needs to be crushed by a huge grass roots reply by way of email, postal mail, fax, phone calls, etc!
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posted on
01/26/2004 10:18:22 AM PST
by
petro45acp
("The terrorists don't "win" by keeping you from normal daily life, but by killing the infidel")
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