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The UN Must Change or the U.S. Must Quit
LA Times via FrontPageMagazine.com ^
| 1/26/04
| David Frum and Richard Perle
Posted on 01/26/2004 2:54:40 AM PST by kattracks
The United Nations is the tooth fairy of American politics: Few adults believe in it, but it's generally regarded as a harmless story to amuse the children. Since 9/11, however, the UN has ceased to be harmless, and the Democratic presidential candidates' enthusiasm for it has ceased to be amusing. The United Nations has emerged at best as irrelevant to the terrorist threat that most concerns us, and at worst as an obstacle to our winning the war on terrorism. It must be reformed. And if it cannot be reformed, the United States should give serious consideration to withdrawal. The UN has become an obstacle to our national security because it purports to set legal limits on the United States' ability to defend itself. If these limits ever made sense at all, they do not make sense now. Yet the UN's assertion of them forces presidents and policymakers into a horrible dilemma. If we obey the UN's rules, we compromise our national security. If we defy them, we expose ourselves to accusations of hypocrisy and lawlessness.
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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: davidfrum; ineffectiveun; richardperle; un
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posted on
01/26/2004 2:54:41 AM PST
by
kattracks
To: kattracks
The LA Times? Really? What's going on over there? Have the "inner-childs" of the editors let the adults have the body for the day?
2
posted on
01/26/2004 2:59:19 AM PST
by
Glenn
(MS:Where do you want to go today? OSX:Where do you want to go tomorrow?Linux:Are you coming or what?)
To: kattracks
The United Nations is a bureaucratic apparatus . if U.S.A. concentrates strength on science, The ones that so there are a lot of chances to let oneself become in the universe are strong.
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posted on
01/26/2004 3:03:30 AM PST
by
serurier
(We come here for the freedom of the world)
To: serurier
What?
4
posted on
01/26/2004 3:34:57 AM PST
by
11B3
(Let's get as much of our nation back as we can in 2004.)
To: 11B3
My meaning is I agree to Bush Space Plans . Attention should not be attracted by the United Nations .
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posted on
01/26/2004 3:40:21 AM PST
by
serurier
(We come here for the freedom of the world)
To: kattracks
Why did Ronald Reagan's formulation,
We will not defeat Communism,
we will transcend it.
just flash through my mind?
Maybe we should be forming a competitive organization centered in the Anglosphere and "New Europe," and just let the UN wither on the vine?
To: serurier
if the UN does not start to promise freedom of religion and the end of murder of people for their faith, then the US should end our financial support of the UN.
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posted on
01/26/2004 4:39:07 AM PST
by
q_an_a
To: serurier
eh? I appreciate your attempts at communicating in our language - I surley couldn't even begin to try yours... but I didn't get anything from your post - please revise as I generally enjoy your posts..
To: kattracks
Very surprising that this is from LA Times. Something's up.
It wouldn't be wise to quit the UN only to allow it to be furhter hijacked by thugs without the deterrence of our influence (and veto!) in the body.
However, I see merit in slowing the cash from MY pocket to the pockets of thug dictators around the world who would use MY money (hard-earned) to destroy my nation and take the rest of MY money.
To: Principled
I'm very sorry , My English is very bad , More event Maybe I must use Chinese .
10
posted on
01/26/2004 4:49:03 AM PST
by
serurier
(We come here for the freedom of the world)
To: kattracks
The real danger of being in the U.N. is when we have an
administration (Democrat) which will turn it all over to
the U.N. (which is coldly and blatantly hostile to the
United States, biting the hand that feeds it and
disrespecting the U.S. for being so gullible).
11
posted on
01/26/2004 4:51:15 AM PST
by
Twinkie
To: kattracks
Great article. Thanks for posting it. Will the last terrorist please blow up the last appeaser?
12
posted on
01/26/2004 4:54:54 AM PST
by
PGalt
To: Glenn
I am wondering too........this was actually printed in the LA Times????????????????
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posted on
01/26/2004 4:58:16 AM PST
by
OldFriend
(Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
To: serurier
Don't use Chinese - then we won't be able to enjoy your posts! Just keep trying English... it's the only way to improve, right?
I do not scold you, I make you know your post could not be read. You learn from this, OK?
Keep trying!
To: Principled
Principled , Thank you help me .
Ok , My meaning is that the strategy of U.S.A. should be wider, don't be restricted to live by the United Nations, Now, the United Nations is a bureaucratic apparatus.
^_^
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posted on
01/26/2004 5:04:31 AM PST
by
serurier
(We come here for the freedom of the world)
To: conservatism_IS_compassion
I really can't understand why their isn't a "Union of Democratic States" to offset this UN nonesense. Kofi and crew always sing the praises of democracy yet the UN is dominated by those who stand opposed to it. Defining membership might be tricky but even pretty low standards would kick out a lot of the riff-raff that dominate the agenda.
To: serurier
don't be restricted to live by the United Nations... Right! You fit right in, serurier. You are one of a handful of individuals from outside the USA who believes this - GOOD!
What does "serurier" mean?
To: Principled
Thank you very much ,
This name is a French Officer in Napoleon times , I like That times , so use his name . Please don't laugh at me .
^_^
Thank you help me .
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posted on
01/26/2004 5:23:26 AM PST
by
serurier
(We come here for the freedom of the world)
To: conservatism_IS_compassion
RE: Maybe we should ... just let the UN wither on the vine?
That would work for me, although I think the "driving a stake through the heart of the bloodsucking vampire" analogy is a better fit for the action required.
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posted on
01/26/2004 5:25:25 AM PST
by
Gil4
To: Twinkie
Second that post!
My worst fear is that absolutely nothing seems capable of changing the dem's apparent core belief that the US must be brought to heel by the rest of the world.
Next time around they might just get it done no matter what transpires in the meantime.
I guess it's for the kiddies.
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posted on
01/26/2004 6:51:34 AM PST
by
norton
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