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Hitler's chemical weapons a seeping menace
Reuters ^ | 1/23/2004 | Alister Doyle

Posted on 01/25/2004 8:29:01 PM PST by Born Conservative

HORTEN, Norway (Reuters) - Six decades after the defeat of Nazi Germany, Adolf Hitler's chemical weapons are coming back to haunt Europe as they ooze from rusting and poorly mapped graves on the seabed.

Far from the hunt for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, corrosion, deeper fishing by trawlers and seabed cables or oil pipelines are disturbing stockpiles in what once seemed inaccessible dumps from the Baltic to the Atlantic.

"It was terrifying. The pain was unbearable and my hands blistered all over," said Danish fisherman Walther Holm Thorsen, who was 15 when he threw a cracked grey canister back into the Baltic Sea after it was snared in the net of his trawler.

One of the first postwar victims of the Nazis in the 1969 accident, he said the pain came in the middle of the night, hours after he and another crew member had rinsed the oily substance off the fish. They had no idea it was mustard gas.

Thorsen spent three months in hospital, and his hands are badly scarred despite skin grafts. "Working as a fisherman now is hard -- my hands often feel like they're freezing," he said.

He said that trawler crew are now more aware of the dangers from chemical arms and have decontamination gear aboard. "But increasing rust will be a problem in future," he added.

In some parts of Europe, no one even knows where tens of thousands of tonnes of munitions are.

Ole-Kristian Bjerkemo of the Norwegian coastguard said he hoped a new seismic survey would be carried out this year to locate ships loaded with Nazi stocks of mustard gas and the nerve agent tabun which were scuttled off Norway in 1945.

DUMP SITES A MYSTERY

Norway knows the exact locations of just 15 of a probable 36 ships in waters about 600 metres (1,970 feet) deep off the southern town of Arendal, one of the main postwar chemical dumps with 168,000 tonnes of Nazi ammunition.

"We want to know where they are," Bjerkemo said. A robot camera sent down in 2002 found a trawler net caught on one wreck. Sulphur mustard and traces of arsenic compounds were found in the seabed but no chemicals in the sea water.

European governments reckon the stocks are safest where they are, slowly seeping poisons that may break down in contact with sea water or become diluted over decades.

The environmental group Greenpeace says they should be recovered. Apart from the threat to people working at sea, a sudden release of nerve gas could kill fish stocks. Other poisons might sink into the sediment and damage the food chain.

"Recovery of dumped munition is a costly and high-risk operation which could result in the release of large amounts of toxic compounds," the OSPAR commission of 15 nations protecting the north-east Atlantic said in a study.

"This problem is not going to go away," countered Paul Johnston, principal scientist at Greenpeace research laboratories. "As corrosion sets in the likelihood of releases increases.

And he said that, unlike Iraq, "we know the weapons are there." U.S.-led forces have failed to find alleged weapons of mass destruction that were a main justification by President George W. Bush for the war to overthrow Saddam Hussein.

Most dumps around Europe are from Nazi Germany but other countries from Britain to the United States have disposed of munitions at sea since World War One.

Led by Ireland, OSPAR governments are working on a common set of guidelines for fishermen on the frontlines, likely to be ready in June.

DON'T RUB STINGING EYES

The so-called Helsinki Commission, grouping states around the Baltic Sea, already gives tips to fishermen including:

-- cut the nets if you suspect mustard gas, which smells like cress, horseradish or mustard.

-- don't rub your eyes if they sting and you suspect mustard gas because you can go blind if you unwittingly already have it on your fingers. Instead, wash eyes with water from a hose for 15 minutes.

-- fishing boats should have one "gas box" per three crew members that should include decontamination liquids and sprays and syringes with injections to counter nerve agents.

In other areas, a Belgian study of the Paardenmarkt site where 35,000 tonnes of chemical and conventional munitions from World War One are dumped in shallow waters concluded that it could take up to 1,000 years for all to corrode.

And since the 1920s, more than one million tonnes of mostly conventional arms have been dumped in the Beaufort's Dyke, a 200-300 metre (656-984 feet) deep trench between Scotland and Northern Ireland. A 1996 study showed no contamination of fish.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chemicalweapons; environment; hitler; wmd; wwii

1 posted on 01/25/2004 8:29:02 PM PST by Born Conservative
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To: Born Conservative
Good story to support Bush and decision to oust Saddam Hussein. Even remnants of WMD are deadly and noxious.
2 posted on 01/25/2004 8:30:48 PM PST by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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To: Born Conservative
Yep that is the way they used to do it and there is a lot down there, plus it moves.
3 posted on 01/25/2004 8:33:36 PM PST by U S Army EOD (Volunteer for EOD and you will never have to worry about getting wounded.)
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To: Born Conservative
But I thought the US was the dirtiest most polluted country??

right.

4 posted on 01/25/2004 8:40:27 PM PST by GeronL (miss me?? I've been gone... you mean you didn't even notice?? wwaaaaaaaaaaa!!!)
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To: Born Conservative
This explains the sardines in "Mustard Sauce." Darned Norwegians will stop at nothing to kill us all.


5 posted on 01/25/2004 8:42:01 PM PST by dagnabbit (Tell Bush where to put his Amnesty, Mexico-Merger, and Global Labor Pool for US jobs - Vote Tancredo)
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To: Born Conservative
"Six decades after the defeat of Nazi Germany, Adolf Hitler's chemical weapons are coming back to haunt Europe as they ooze from rusting and poorly mapped graves on the seabed.

Who dumped this stuff? The Nazis, or the Norskis?

6 posted on 01/25/2004 8:50:04 PM PST by FBD (...Please press 2 for English...for Espanol, please stay on the line...)
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To: Born Conservative
What's up with this story?
Why is it being published now?
What is it that reuters finds 'newsworthy' here?
The only incident they cite is something that happened to a guy 35 years ago.
7 posted on 01/25/2004 9:03:12 PM PST by DefCon
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To: Born Conservative; Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; AndreaZingg; Anonymous2; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
8 posted on 01/25/2004 9:05:38 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: Born Conservative
These books have interesting accounts of mustard gas in water and oil. Really nasty stuff!
9 posted on 01/25/2004 9:26:42 PM PST by Virginia-American
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To: FBD
We did.
10 posted on 01/25/2004 9:29:22 PM PST by U S Army EOD (Volunteer for EOD and you will never have to worry about getting wounded.)
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To: Born Conservative
Maybe this will serve as another subtle reminder to the Euro-trash that evil is as evil does. If they hadn't wussed out, they could have stopped Hitler's myriad evils before they started.
11 posted on 01/25/2004 9:44:15 PM PST by clee1 (Where's the beef???)
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To: DefCon
"Why is it being published now?
What is it that Reuters finds 'newsworthy' here?

You know DefCons, those are all very good questions. I smell BS in this story, as well.

"The only incident they cite is something that happened to a guy 35 years ago."

I thought the same thing. Plus, I'm not buying the GreenPeace- "thousand years to decay" line either.

This story appears to be another attempt by Reuters to dicredit the U.S.

12 posted on 01/25/2004 10:09:53 PM PST by FBD (...Please press 2 for English...for Espanol, please stay on the line...)
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!
13 posted on 01/26/2004 3:06:35 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: DefCon
I'm very suspicious of the story also. Reuters usually has an ulterior/political motive when they publish stories, and I don't understand why this is specifically coming out now.
14 posted on 01/26/2004 3:09:27 AM PST by Born Conservative ("Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names" - John F. Kennedy)
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To: Born Conservative
No media bias here
15 posted on 01/29/2004 5:19:15 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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