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To: TXnMA; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE
Electric farm tractors?

Looks like the bozos at the Sacramento Bee confused the issue with that captioned picture of the tractor.

Near as I can figure, the article and legislation is just about diesel-electric pumps used for irrigation, not diesel tractors.

I don't know for sure, but I would guess the standby surcharge that the utilities are clubbing the farmers with is merely the "deregulated" market at work. SOMEBODY has to pay for the luxury of holding "excess" unefficient capacity in reserve for when the farmers need to kick in their electric pumps. (Can't blame the farmers for shifting to their own diesel-electric generators to avoid the surcharge.

Of course, the solution under the old, regulated public utility model (that served our nation well for many, many decades) was to intentionally build sufficient capacity so that there was always plenty available for everybody.

There was nothing wrong with that at all, as long as the regulatory agency was "friendly" toward the utilities. But the enviro-whacknuts hijacked the regulatory agencies and created an "unfriendly" business environment. Then the beancounters at the utilities gave up fighting the enviro-whacknuts and came up with the bogus "deregulated" shell game, which is gonna screw everybody with higher rates and shortages.

Sad state of affairs, IMHO.

Kalifornia still needs to build more nukes.
But I don't think Arnie is gonna pull it off.

32 posted on 01/25/2004 6:15:08 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
Farms don't run diesel engines as stand alones! They run tractors to turn those pumps much like an aircraft at a gate runs on a GPU.

This is just a weasel way to kill diesel tractors, which is fine by me if they do it in California because they buy them all up at auctions and truck them back to California to use in such applications. The out of state buyers here in Wisconsin cause the inventory of used tractors to be way overpriced.

In dairy the average farm hires three mexicans for every one skidsteer. The machines run 24/7.

AFWIW, Jet A (basically diesel) accounts for over 65% of all kerosene/diesel/Jet A used in vehicles. If anyone wants to dent Diesel or soot emmissions, go kick Linda Daschles pet airlines for a reality check. At most carriers running at 40% capacity average, we could kill 50% of all air traffic and save the world. But that's not good, our gubmint sells those routes to feed the beast. The airlines might want their money back and they would find good cause to stop servicing cities like Pierre and Sioux City. But think how much clearer the skies will be?

37 posted on 01/25/2004 6:34:09 PM PST by blackdog (Democrat Party? Democratic Party? Democrat Candidate? Democratic Candidate? Wassup wit dat?)
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To: Willie Green
Good observation on the pump engines, vice tractor engines.

Thanks.
39 posted on 01/25/2004 6:35:57 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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