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Topdown Communication by White House Leads to Arizona Revolt
GOPUSA ^ | 25 January 2004 | Dennis Durband

Posted on 01/25/2004 2:28:32 PM PST by Spiff

Topdown Communication by White House Leads to Arizona Revolt

By Dennis Durband
GOPUSA
January 25, 2004

Top-down communication without the inclusions of lateral and bottom-up communication is a sure recipe for organizational failure.

Organizations that value communication from management, subordinates, customers and a wide range of publics are more likely to be vibrant, successful entities.

What are we seeing in the Republican Party, regarding the border invasion? Paternalistic, top-down communication. We talk; you listen.

We are seeing a disconnect between the grassroots level and the upper levels of the party. The words of the people, precinct committeemen and district chairmen have for several months gone unheeded. Opinion polls strongly favoring PAN have been ignored by the party. The White House, the Republican National Committee and Arizona GOP are trying to force unpopular policy down the throats of the party base.

The upper brass favors a guest worker program that many people believe amounts to nothing more than amnesty for lawbreakers. ''Trust us,'' say the big boys. ''Protect our citizens and our sovereignty,'' say the common folks. This is a classic disconnect.

It is no wonder then that this volatile situation boiled over at the AZ GOP executive board meeting Saturday. AZ GOP Chairman Bob Fannin has been calling for unity and support for the president.

Some of the state's district chairmen had had enough, and they read Fannin the riot act. Instead of forcing an unpopular policy down the people's throats, they said, Fannin should use his position to relay to the White House the strong disapproval for amnesty on the grassroots level.

Fannin's days are numbered as AZ GOP chairman. It is likely that former Gov. Fife Symington will be approached -- if he hasn't already -- about running for election as AZ GOP chairman next year. That's when Fannin's two-year term runs out. Fannin had also placed himself on thin ice for trying to mainstream the pro-abortion WISH List into the pro-life GOP. As a result, there are now 500 anti-WISH List lapel stickers in circulation at party meetings.

The lesson to the story is that the Republican Party needs to take in opinions and information from below and give rank and file Republicans legitimate consideration -- as opposed to dictating unpopular policy on an unwilling constituency. The White House had better start listening to the people and re-thinking its position, because a lot of Republicans are saying Bush will not get their vote as things currently stand. The White House can choose this day whom it will serve. If the White House gets behind PAN, Arizona is in the bag for the president's re-election chances. It's that simple.

Notes

The two state representatives who serve as senior advisors to the Protect Arizona Now (PAN) initiative are both thinking about running for Congress.

Rep. Randy Graf, of D30 and Green Valley, may decide to oppose Cong. Jim Kolbe in Congressional District 8. Kolbe, Sen. John McCain and Cong. Jeff Flake are co-sponsoring a guest worker program that has greatly angered conservatives. Incidentally, the District 8 precinct captains attending the state GOP convention in Mesa Saturday, voted by a margin of 54-20 to support the PAN initiative -- a direct rebuke of Cong. Kolbe.

Rep. Russell Pearce, of D18 and Mesa, has been urged to oppose Cong. Flake in this year's election. Stan Barnes has already declared for the same race. Pearce believes that if he enters the race, the non-Flake vote may get diluted in a two-way battle with Barnes. Pearce is much more popular than Barnes and may be able to mount a serious challenge to Flake.

Candidacies by Graf and Pearce would undoubtedly be opposed with all the weight and financial resources of the White House and the RNC. Which takes us back to the disconnect subject we started with. We saw how ruthless the president's senior advisor, Karl Rove, can be when he made deeply disturbing threats against Republican congressmen who opposed the president's Medicare bill a couple months ago.

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Sen. Jon Kyl told me Saturday he is hoping for more recess appointments by President Bush. The senator said any future appointments would have to involve judges who are not opposed to going through the confirmation process again after the recess appointment expires.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; borderintruders; invasion; republicanrevolt
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To: nonliberal
That still makes you a one issue malcontent! :)
81 posted on 01/26/2004 4:55:40 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: TLI
Thanks.
82 posted on 01/26/2004 7:04:11 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: FITZ
We won't even deport illegal alien felons, who really believes we will ever send back one "temporary" guest worker?

Anybody who beieves that, I have a bridge to sell...cheap.

83 posted on 01/26/2004 7:05:25 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
I apologize. I am not being a "compassionate coservative."
:)
84 posted on 01/26/2004 7:35:37 AM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: nonliberal
I'll let it go this once. ;)

But don't let certain bootslathering tonguemonkeys see that kinda talk.
85 posted on 01/26/2004 7:37:58 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: cake_crumb; Spiff; Travis McGee
I didn't SAY that CLOSING THE BORDER is vague, I said the PLAN is vague. Nobody offers details. Without details, it's VAGUE. Not only is it vague, it's not even a PLAN. Close the border HOW, exactly, especially when every attempt toward that end winds up in court?

ALTERNATIVES. You can't give detailed alternatives without learning and understanding every aspect of the problem. Lack of detailed alternatives is vagueness. Please stop snarling and begin discussion, or you'll lose this debate.

Ah, beauty. Anyone who opposes the amnesty has to either come up with a democrat-grade Policy Book, or STFU and go away.

If you think that sort of nonsense of gonna get your guy re-elected, you're delusional. Seriously.

86 posted on 01/26/2004 11:26:15 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Spiff
Just because the majority of carjackers are minorities, should we then stop enforcing the law against stealing cars at gunpoint? Should the carjackers be allowed to keep the cars they have stolen just because they are a member of a "minority group"?

Only if we want to be "compassionate".

Remember, carjackers are people too, and they have families to feed, bills to pay, and so on. Isn't it better to bring them into the system, get them paying taxes, using the banks, paying for insurance, and so forth? Why should we stigmatize them?

As Tom Ridge might put it, "As a country, we have to come to grips with the presence of eight to 12 million illegal carjackers, then decide as a country what our process is and enforce it."

We need to make these people legal and then enforce the new laws (i.e., regulate carjacking, so that we can manage it, instead of allowing the present chaotic situation to continue.)

87 posted on 01/26/2004 11:38:15 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: cake_crumb
It's not amnesty. You're using the wrong word and will therefore lose the argument.

Hahahahahahahahahah!

Oh, my achin' sides!

Hi, Bill.

Thanks for that continuing lesson in "what 'is' is."

88 posted on 01/26/2004 11:39:30 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: BenR2
Memo to Rove/Bush: Arrogance is a vice.

Memo from President Rove: The natural right of kings is to rule.

89 posted on 01/26/2004 11:40:34 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: upcountryhorseman
How are they going to enforce such rules as this when they can't enforce the present immigration laws?

Don't be silly. It'll be like the Brady Bill and every other exercise in incrementalism.

The instant the bill is signed, the movers and shakers will herald it as "a good first step."

It will doubtless require "refinements", i.e., an "non-amnesty 2", to "close the loopholes". Then we'll have "better enforement".

(Remember, the less there is to "enforce", the easier it is to "enforce".)

90 posted on 01/26/2004 11:44:24 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Travis McGee
If he signs any form of an amnesty or so-called "assault weapons ban" extension, they will be Strike Two and Strike Three, and I will NOT vote for him.

Since he's on record as saying he will sign the extention, and, he's personally pushing for the amnesty, I'd wager that you won't have too much trouble figuring out what to do on election day.

91 posted on 01/26/2004 11:46:36 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: cake_crumb; Travis McGee
I'm pretty sure I'm typing in English, so I'll try ONE MORE TIME: UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE ARGUING ABOUT, OR NOBODY WILL TAKE YOUR ARGUMENT SERIOUSLY AND YOU WILL LOSE.

1. Stop screaming, it's rude.

2. I hate to be the one to break this to you, but plenty of people do take his argument seriously, and it's looking more and more like it's President Rove who'll be losing the debate -- in November.

92 posted on 01/26/2004 11:49:02 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: ovrtaxt
I'm not sure I want to know their true motives.

I rather suspect you already do know them.

93 posted on 01/26/2004 11:54:48 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: B4Ranch
B4Ranch - Im with ya all the way - we need to start electing conservatives or heck any politician that will listen to the people on this issue. Send the illegals packing and enforce our border. Companies that hire illegals should be prosecuted ASAP.
94 posted on 01/26/2004 11:57:43 AM PST by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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To: gipper81
The citizens' initiative:

Requires proof of citizenship when registering to vote.

Requires proof of identity when voting.

Requires proof of eligibility for non-federally mandated public benefits.

How utterly racist!

No compassionate "conservative could ever consider such baseless tripe!

95 posted on 01/26/2004 12:06:09 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Map Kernow
The message for the GOP base from the Bush White House is clear: "YOU SUPPORT---WE DECIDE!"

Quote of the year!

96 posted on 01/26/2004 12:07:29 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Please tell me how the illegal alien issue is a "one issue" concern.
97 posted on 01/26/2004 1:48:39 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: B4Ranch
B4,

Is joke.

He lists six issues, I say One Issue Malcontent!

Sort of a parody of certain someones.
98 posted on 01/26/2004 2:12:05 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (No, I don't put anything past them.)
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To: B4Ranch
The illegal alien issue has several major sub-issues that are major issues of their own.

Rule of Law would be one.
Will of the people, another.
99 posted on 01/26/2004 2:14:09 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (No, I don't put anything past them.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Social engineering of a nation is another.
100 posted on 01/26/2004 2:21:56 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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