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To: JohnGalt
Sexual trauma counseling?

I have two daughters in the military, and stories they tell me about the amount of sexual activity in the military is mind boggling. Also the amount of pregnancy. My point being, how many of these gals are claiming "rape" because they are coming home to husbands/boyfriends pregnant? This is not to say rape is not happening, however I'm somewhat skeptical that it is as prevalent as this article makes it appear.

3 posted on 01/25/2004 9:16:47 AM PST by stylin_geek (Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
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To: stylin_geek
My point being, how many of these gals are claiming "rape" because they are coming home to husbands/boyfriends pregnant?

Fair amount of that went on when I was in the USN in the '90s. Also, some women cried rape when caught in flagrante delicto with people they shouldn't have been delicto-ing with (fraternization), or in places where delicto-ing wasn't supposed to be going on.

I don't want to come across as defending actual rapists though.

17 posted on 01/25/2004 9:26:00 AM PST by squidly (Money is inconvenient for them: give them victuals and an arse-clout, it is enough.)
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To: stylin_geek
I agree with you .. and this further supports my contention that women do not belong in combat zones or on ships.

And .. it has nothing to do with the competence of women.
68 posted on 01/25/2004 10:10:54 AM PST by CyberAnt ("America is the GREATEST NATION on the face of the earth")
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To: stylin_geek
The soldier from Pennsylvania was raped. She was brutalized in a shower by a filthy pig that beat her up. Her family called and was upset with the inaction and no news from the military. She was newly married and her husband is also active duty military. It was a brutal rape. The way it was handled was disgusting. It was suggested that they call as many legislators as possible to include Pa. Senator Arlin Specter. You had better tell your military daughters to watch carefully. This soldier was not new to the force and had been with the Stryker force when it arrived in the middle east. Did they catch the SOB? I do not know. I am in hopes her husband gets first shot at him
146 posted on 01/25/2004 6:58:25 PM PST by oldironsides
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To: stylin_geek
Of course sex is happening, you put young men and young women together, sex is the only end result, period. Add in extended periods away from family and familiarity, and the emotional aspects of being deployed, its even greater. PC Dogma cannot change reality.

I am sure some rapes have occurred, and i am sure some claiming rape are doing so to cover up affairs as well. But lets keep some perspective, how many troops are over there right now? 100k? 300k? If all 37 rapes are true, that's a far far far lower number of rapes per thousand than the typical woman on the streets in the US in terms of odds.
292 posted on 02/26/2004 11:30:06 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: stylin_geek
I suspect the penomenon is a combination of a lot of things:

1. Lots of men and women not only working together, but living together and spending all their time together. No question to me this will lead to men becoming attracted to women, women being attracted to men, and a misunderstanding or even what is called date rape situation arises.

2. A percentage would be a classic rape situation - a man with mental problems and a criminal mind who forcibly rapes a woman or women.

3. I think there are still rules against fraternization and a women officer with a goal of a career in the military who is caught with her pants down with an enlisted man might take the easy way out and accuse the man of rape rather than risk disciplanry action or court martial. I would expect this to be rare, but it's certainly possible.

4. I think some cases will be consentual sex and the couple gets caught (considering the military environment it's hard to imagine not getting caught sooner or later), and like you mention, the woman would have to explain getting caught, or worse, pregnancy, to her hubby stationed elsewhere or living as a civillian back home. Again, I suspect it's rare, but it's a possibility.

I don't think its fair to say that most of these cases are women claiming rape because of the last two situations I mentioned. I'm old fashioned - when a woman says she has been raped, I am inclined to believe her. If I were a betting man, I'd suspect most of these cases are either situation 1 or 2, with maybe a few 3s and 4s tossed in, because clearly stuff like that does happen also.
297 posted on 02/26/2004 11:35:35 AM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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