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Female GIs reporting rapes by U.S. soldiers
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| 1/24/2004
| MILES MOFFEIT AND AMY HERDY
Posted on 01/25/2004 9:11:26 AM PST by JohnGalt
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To: wirestripper
That is the same logic that the Muslims use.
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:45:07 AM PST
by
DMCA
(TITLE 17 Chapter 1 Sec 107)
To: JohnGalt
NOTHING justifies rape. Not "social engineering" . . . not the "fear of imminent death" . . . not the "she was probably asking for it" mentality. NOTHING.
Some of the responses on this thread are truly sickening!!!
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:45:29 AM PST
by
Ganymede
To: independentmind
Your analytical skills are awe inspiring...
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:46:18 AM PST
by
ItisaReligionofPeace
(I'm from the government and I'm here to help.)
To: independentmind
The rapes we are talking about, if they happened, where done by fellow soliders. Since that is the topic at hand my statement stands.
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:46:55 AM PST
by
DMCA
(TITLE 17 Chapter 1 Sec 107)
To: DMCA
Ok, Fine!
They are right about this subject.
The difference is that I do not denigrate a woman to a second or third class status as a result of sex.
I only suggest that they not be in combat or anywhere near it except for the USO.
45
posted on
01/25/2004 9:48:23 AM PST
by
Cold Heat
("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
To: Kozak
That is the same logic that the people we are fighting use in regards to rape. We are better that that and saying that the only solution is to remove the women is just making excuses.
As a side note, I think that having women in a combat zone is a STUPID thing to do. But making excuses for the men is wrong also.
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:48:44 AM PST
by
DMCA
(TITLE 17 Chapter 1 Sec 107)
To: JohnGalt
Six years ago the Marine Corps extended boot camp for one week in order to teach ethics to the new recruits. My son was in the first unit to have the extra week. The military is doing what it can but it can't change 18 years of irresponsibility by parents. This doesn't excuse a rapist's behavior but we can't blame the military either.
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:54:19 AM PST
by
armymarinedad
(Patriots love their way of life. Liberals love their lifestyle.)
To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
Military: Young, physically fit, aggressive men with a few young, physically fit, aggressive women sprinkled in. Is it any surprise, with soldiers dying all the time, and knowing that any day could be their last, that they want sex, and will take it if possible?
You hit the nail on the head...not to mention the ratio....and the games people play...giving in to 1 or 2 or 3 but not numbers 4,5, 6
And...the rumor of coming home raped to 100% disability rating by the military or VA
Women do NOT belong in combat or in a combat zone other than nurses in a surg hospital...closely guarded by MPs and razor wire...(the nurses were guarded like this at 3rd Surg in Dong Tam back in '69)
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:55:00 AM PST
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: DMCA
btt
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:56:06 AM PST
by
Sacajaweau
(God Bless Our Troops!!)
To: DMCA
Whether they were done by fellow soldiers or opponents on a a battlefield makes little difference. The military culture, by necessity, encourages certain aggressive traits in men, and creates an environment that is often hostile to women.
If you want to try to redesign nature, try with something less vitally important to our national defense.
To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
**Rape is not just about power, its also about sex. **
Rape is about violence. Men of honor do not rape.
To: metesky
I hope these are actually being investigated. Given the destructive nature of the mere charge, it would not be difficult for a woman to lie for advantage or revenge. Soldiers should be worrying about the enemy not women soldiers.
Does the military have rape kits to collect evidence?
Even so, consentual sex can easily be called rape after the fact.
This does not doubt this crime is happening. However, just ONE false claim and all the legitimate claims are minimized.
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To: DMCA
But making excuses for the men is wrong also.Nobody excuses the behavior!
The behavior however can be predicted and explained.
There are some things that cannot be controlled by self, 100% of the time.
You know it, I know it and everyone knows it.
If it were possible for men and women to control their behavior with/without training or anything else, then the world would certainly be different.
Basically, rather than making excuses, I am pointing out the reality of life.
Reality is not a excuse, but it is a condition that one must take into account.
If reality was a excuse, then we would all be in straight jackets and the world would be in chaos.
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:58:00 AM PST
by
Cold Heat
("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
To: JohnGalt
Lemme see here....
I have a mouse problem in my house. They keep coming in to get at the cheese I keep in my cupboard.
Now I could kill the mice if I could catch them. But, wouldn't be easier all way round if I simply moved the cheese from a place where they are able to get at it to a place where they can't get at it?
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posted on
01/25/2004 9:59:45 AM PST
by
Bloody Sam Roberts
(If white wine goes with fish, do white grapes go with sushi?)
To: JohnGalt
not only do we the activity we get whining!
here ifor more whinning.
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posted on
01/25/2004 10:00:47 AM PST
by
fooman
(Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Where to you get off trying to inject logic into the discussion?
To: fooman
Say what?
To: JohnGalt
There was a story a while back claiming that 1 out of 3 women in college claimed to have been raped during their 4 years there. I don't know what the numbers are for the population as a whole, but I'll bet anything that the percentage of rapes in the military is way lower than in society at large. Women in the military are safer from rape than your daughter or wife.
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posted on
01/25/2004 10:03:42 AM PST
by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
To: onedoug
Ditto
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