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Saddam Trial Could Reveal US's Dirty Secrets
IOL ^ | 1-25-2004

Posted on 01/25/2004 8:41:44 AM PST by blam

Saddam trial could reveal US's dirty secrets

January 25 2004 at 11:00AM

Washington - Saddam Hussein's loyalists may not be the only ones edgy about the prospect of a war crimes trial for the former Iraqi leader.

Vexing questions also could surface about how much the United States helped Iraq during its eight-year war with Iran - and whether it tried to stop Iraqi atrocities.

Among the questions that could arise in any such trial:

What did US officials know about products shipped to Iraq that could have been used for weapons?

What intelligence did they provide Iraq that could have been used for chemical attacks?

How hard did Donald Rumsfeld try to persuade Saddam Hussein to stop using chemical weapons against Iran?

Rumsfeld, now defence secretary, met with Saddam and other top Iraqi officials during visits to Baghdad in 1983 and 1984, when he served as President Ronald Reagan's envoy.

Saddam and officials from his government could describe their dealings with Americans as they defend themselves from charges stemming from the Iran and Kuwait wars and the repression against Kurds and other Iraqis. The Iraqi Governing Council is creating a tribunal and some international jurists have called for a United Nations court.

"I don't think there's going to be much there that a leading Iraqi is going to be able to say, 'Hey, we had significant, witting cooperation from the United States government in our program of weapons of mass destruction,"' said Richard Murphy, head of the State Department's Near Eastern affairs bureau in the 1980s.

But testimony could provide embarrassing new details about American assistance to Iraq, what US officials knew about Iraqi atrocities and what they did - or didn't do - to stop them.

"I think there will be a dramatic embarrassment factor for the US government," said Thomas Blanton, director of the National Security Archives, a foreign policy research centre. Blanton and other analysts said the embarrassment could be even worse for countries with closer relations to Iraq, such as France.

In the aftermath of the September 11, 2001, attacks, Saddam's pursuit of weapons of mass destruction, support of terrorists and human rights abuses became grounds for war. But in the 1980s, the United States had a more pressing concern: Iran.

After the hostage crisis at the US embassy in Tehran, US and Arab leaders feared that if Iran defeated Iraq, Iran could threaten other countries in hopes of spreading its strict form of Islam.

Iraq was seen more favourably even though it started the war and Saddam was clearly a dictator. It was a secular nation, influential among Arab states. It had vast oil reserves and offered lucrative opportunities for US businesses. The United States also wanted to prevent Iraq from becoming too close to the Soviet Union.

Many details about the US-Iraqi relationship are already known through congressional investigations, court proceedings and declassified documents.

"I think most of the embarrassing stuff has already come out," said Geoffrey Kemp, a National Security Council specialist on Iraq under Reagan.

But the historical record isn't complete. Questions remain about Rumsfeld's visits, which came at a time when the United States already was well aware of Iraq's use of chemical weapons.

Declassified documents indicate that Rumsfeld did not raise the issue with Saddam in their December 1983 meeting, although Rumsfeld said he did raise it during a one-on-one meeting with foreign minister Tariq Aziz.

Rumsfeld returned to Iraq in March 1984 to try to smooth relations after the United States condemned Iraq's use of chemical weapons. He was instructed to stress US interests in preventing an Iranian victory and in improving relations with Iraq, despite the condemnation. What he told Aziz is unknown because notes of the meeting remain classified.

Aziz is now in US custody.

David Mack, who held various top Middle East positions in the State Department in the 1980s and '90s, said he doubts Iraqis would have heeded any warnings not to use chemical weapons.

"In general I think there is a high degree of exaggeration about the degree to which we could have done anything about Iraqi bad behaviour," he said.

During the war, the Reagan administration worked aggressively to prevent other nations from shipping arms to Iran, but did little to prevent conventional arms from going to Iraq.

Questions have been raised about whether the United States not only ignored foreign arms shipments to Iraq, but actually encouraged or even arranged them. A former National Security Council official, Howard Teicher, said in a 1995 court affidavit that the CIA made sure Iraq received weapons from non-US manufacturers.

The affidavit was filed in the case of a company accused of illegally exporting to Chile material used in Iraqi cluster bombs. A defendant claimed the CIA had arranged the deal, but the court rejected the argument after viewing classified documents.

While prohibiting US arms sales to Iraq, the Reagan administration allowed exports of products that could be used for civilian or military purposes. Questions remain about whether pesticides or helicopters were used to make or spray chemical weapons.

Questions also linger about whether the United States may have inadvertently helped Saddam's biological weapons program. US officials have acknowledged that in the 1980s, the government and private companies sent to Iraq strains that could be used for biological weapons, including anthrax and the West Nile virus. Iraq claimed the samples were for medical research, but they were sent to sites believed to be part of Iraq's biological weapons program.

Perhaps the most sensitive issue is intelligence sharing.

US officials have acknowledged providing intelligence on Iran, but what information they provided isn't clear. Teicher claimed in the affidavit that the United States provided strategic military advice to Saddam. In one example, he alleged that Reagan used then-Vice President George Bush to send a message that Iraq should step up its bombing of Iran.

Blanton said the biggest question is whether the United States provided intelligence that could have been used for chemical attacks against Iran. Top officials from that era deny that happened. - Sapa-AP


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraqijustice; reveal; saddam; secrets; speculation; trial; uss

1 posted on 01/25/2004 8:41:46 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
Right. Here goes the lefty speculation circus.

Coulda-woulda-shoulda...
2 posted on 01/25/2004 8:45:52 AM PST by telebob
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To: blam
Oh yeah? I think there's more of a chance that it will uncover France's, Germany's and Russia's "dirty secrets".
3 posted on 01/25/2004 8:47:32 AM PST by aodell
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To: blam
SH will never go on trial,period. It has already been rumored he has cancer, he will die in captivity.
4 posted on 01/25/2004 8:48:36 AM PST by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: aodell
Quite right. Anyway, it can't really embarass GWB much, since he wasn't in power. It could be very embarassing for Papa Bush and Clinton, possibly even for Jimmuh Carter. Unfortunately, Ronaldus Magnus is beyond being embarrased.
5 posted on 01/25/2004 8:56:01 AM PST by Restorer
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To: eastforker
This is liberal urban mythology at it's finest. Bush knew about 9-11 before it happened, but was willing to sacrifice up to 100,000 innocent lives in the WTC to help his oil buddies get Iraqi oil. Then he lied about WMD to jump start the war.

Yet, this callous man Bush isn't ruthless enough to plant WMD in Iraq to cover-up his pre-war statements. And he's willing to let Saddam spill his guts in a trial instead of having him shot in his spider hole to keep him quiet.

Logical thinking is not the liberal's forte.


6 posted on 01/25/2004 8:57:09 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: blam
"Saddam and officials from his government could describe their dealings with Americans..."

...and I would believe them why??!!

7 posted on 01/25/2004 8:58:42 AM PST by Thom Pain
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To: blam
Do you think German and American papers were headlining this nonsense post-WWII?

It's Bush's fault Saddam mass-murdered his own people, and paid off members of the press, UN, EU, DNC, ANSWER, etc., to cover-up his own atrocities.

Yeah, blame America, war critics with authority, with a voice on the world stage. Then take a good, hard look in the mirror at the quantity of innocent blood on your own hands.

8 posted on 01/25/2004 9:00:12 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The chapter of Iraq's history - Saddam Hussein's reign of terror - is now closed." Lt. Gen. Sanchez)
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To: BigBobber
Not that I believe any of that crap, it is just my opinion he will not stand trial.There will be charges filed etc., but he will fall ill and will be deemed to sick to stand trial and he will just die.
9 posted on 01/25/2004 9:02:38 AM PST by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: blam
NOT TO WORRY. SADDAM'S TRIAL WILL BE HELD RIGHT NORIEGA'S TRIAL. THE NEXT TIME ANY OF US WILL SEE THAT MAN IS FEET FIRST. NOT THAT I CARE.
10 posted on 01/25/2004 9:05:16 AM PST by LandofLincoln ((THE RIGHT HAS BECOME THE LEFT)but I wear the tin foil hat)
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To: blam
There's nothing there. We had some dealings with Saddam as a means of countering Khomeini and the Mullahs in Iran, who were the main threat at the time. Balance of power politics.

If Jimmy Carter hadn't assisted Khomeini in deposing the Shah and assuming his reign of terror, it wouldn't have been necessary.

That was also one reason why the first President Bush didn't depose Saddam in Gulf War I. First, because he had no UN mandate to do so; but more practically, because he didn't want to leave a power vacuum into which Khomeini would have moved.

These morons on the left don't seem to understand that conditions change. Instead, they blindly support every Democrat president and oppose every Republican. So they fault Cheney for having supported an ally back then, but they fault him for opposing an enemy now. Morons.
11 posted on 01/25/2004 9:15:09 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: blam
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is all under the assumption that Saddam lives long enough to stand trial. Fat chance.
12 posted on 01/25/2004 9:24:12 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: Restorer
BTTT.
13 posted on 01/25/2004 9:47:26 AM PST by aodell
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