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To: Gunslingr3
Oh, that's just wrong. Spending has not exploded. And the Medicare prescription drug bill may be expensive as it's labeled, but it's not proven since we don't know how many people will actually sign up for it since it's voluntary.

And given the demographics of Medicare now and over the next 20 years, the use of drugs will decrease the use of doctors, hospitals, procedures and operations.

I'll take an actual doctor's word, Sen. Bill Frist, over posters or other politicians when he says heart drugs alone would save Medicare billions over the next 10-20 years in savings on surgeries alone.

So before anyone can whine and complain about the drug portion of Medicare costing $400 billion over the next ten years, they better be sure they know the facts. Sure, most government programs do cost more than projected, but the simple reforms in this bill, along with HSA's, will lower the cost eventually if the GOP continues in Congress.

And Bush isn't spending near as much as the Democrats did, with both Dem and GOP presidents, in the last 50 years. Bush and a GOP Congress could actually put in a privatization plan with Soc Sec that will slowly eliminate this worthless ponzi scheme. That's a savings of over $25 trillion in unfunded liabilities in the future. And don't listen to the liars about a "transition cost" of $1 trillion (notice how that figure is totally pulled out of a hat)...since a future promise to pay can't be measured in any shape or form and thus there is no real transition cost.

And don't buy into the Dem lies about non-discrentionary spending going through the roof. These are the same idiots that told us a decrease in the increase of Medicare in 1995 from 14% to less than 7% (which Clinton originally proposed and Howard Dean agreed with, along with John Kerry and LIEberman) was a "cut".

Face it, none of these figures they give us are worth crap. Kids running lemonade stands keep better books. Heck, Enron kept better books. So why are Enron execs going to jail but we never send bureaucratic morons to jail?

And the deficit isn't a problem. The liars have, for decades, said it raises interest rates and it never does. Even Clinton's 1995 fiscal budget projected $200 billion a year deficits for 10 years. Remember his whining about a balanced budget (we could do it in 9 years, 7 years, 5 years, maybe 4 years)?

The idea that he had trillions in surpluses is again government-speak with their "let's project today into the next decade" idea of budgeting. The federal government, since World War II, has only been in "surplus" (a total lie given the IOU's in Medicare and Soc Sec) for two years.

And the national debt compared to the the yearly national GDP is like buying a home with a 15 year mortgage. It's a way to finance our expenditures which I agree should be smaller. But other countries buy our debt because it's a good, safe investment. Lots of us buy Treasury Bonds and Savings Bonds. I love to hear the whiners say, "we need to eliminate our debt"...oh? Are you going to take away all those Savings Bonds from all those families by paying them off? Are you going to deny rich, little old ladies their T-bills?

The best run corporations have the same percentage of debt since it's cheaper to borrow money than it is to save it.
122 posted on 01/24/2004 1:11:34 AM PST by Fledermaus (Democrats are just not capable of defending our nation's security. It's that simple!)
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To: Fledermaus
Don't confuse the poor child with facts and a rational refutation. LOL

Great post, old fcriend. :-)

126 posted on 01/24/2004 1:14:03 AM PST by nopardons
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