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Clark placed career ahead of nation in Kosovo
Tucson Citizen ^ | Friday, January 23, 2004 | GEORGE JATRAS

Posted on 01/23/2004 8:36:40 PM PST by Destro

Edited on 05/07/2004 5:38:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: MJY1288
>>> paranoid PD retains good reality contact and does not exhibit the psychotic features of those other disorders, but paranoid PD is considered part of the schizophrenic spectrum. <<<

I'm no pschylonalyist, but if this isn't right on, its awfully, awfully close!

21 posted on 01/23/2004 9:33:31 PM PST by HardStarboard (Dump Wesley Clark.....he worries me as much as Hillary!)
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To: Destro
Clark? Say it ain't so!
22 posted on 01/23/2004 9:34:34 PM PST by Barnacle ("It is as it was.")
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To: MHGinTN
Look at this opportunistic bastard, pandering to anyone and everyone on the left. He learned well, from his mentor, the biggest liars of the all, the Klintons.


23 posted on 01/23/2004 9:35:57 PM PST by NYC Republican
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To: HardStarboard
My Sister-in-Law is a Clinical Psychologist with a masters degree in Psychology, and she strongly believes Waffly Clark is suffering from this disorder. She even went so far as to say that is why he scored so well at West Point, She said the fear of being outdone brings on the Paranoia. I told her that I believe he will have a "Dean" moment before much longer, She agreed :-)
24 posted on 01/23/2004 9:43:39 PM PST by MJY1288 (WITHOUT DOUBLE STANDARDS, LIBERALS WOULDN'T HAVE ANY !)
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To: Destro
Looks like the media is picking Kerry or Edwards. I am not watching any of this just reading on FR. The Media... We report and we decide.
25 posted on 01/23/2004 9:44:06 PM PST by Brimack34
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To: Brimack34
bump
26 posted on 01/23/2004 10:07:37 PM PST by NYC Republican
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To: Destro
During his stint as NATO Supreme commander (1997-2000). Clark had close personal ties with KLA Chief of Staff Commander Brigadier Agim Ceku and KLA Leader Hashim Thaci (see photo below ).

Agim Ceku, who directly collaborated with NATO during the 1999 Kosovo campaign is recognized by the Hague ICTY Tribunal "for alleged war crimes committed against ethnic Serbs in Croatia between 1993 and 1995." ( AFP 13 Oct 1999)

Hashim Thaci had ordered the political assassination of his opponents in Ibrahim Rugova's nationalist Democratic League of Kosovo (LDK) (See November 2000 BBC Report at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1037302.stm ). According to The Boston Globe (2 August 1999):

"Terrorists with ties to Osama bin Laden running around with AK-47s and anti-tank weapons is bad enough. Worse, Thaci's boys aren't just killers and kleptos, but mafioso who are neck deep in the drug trade. (During the war, the Washington Times quoted an unnamed U.S. drug enforcement official commenting on the KLA, 'They were drug dealers in 1998 and now, because of politics, they're freedom fighters.')"

In the wake of the 1999 Kosovo campaign, under NATO regency, these acts of political assassination--ordered by the self-proclaimed Provisional Government of Kosovo (PGK)-- were carried out in a totally permissive environment. The leaders of the KLA rather than being arrested by NATO for war crimes, were granted KFOR protection. According to one report of the Foreign Policy Institute (published during the 1999 bombings: "...the KLA have [no] qualms about murdering Rugova's collaborators, whom it accused of the "crime" of moderation...(Michael Radu, "Don't Arm the KLA", CNS Commentary from the Foreign Policy Research Institute, 7 April, 1999).

In course of the bombing campaign, Fehmi Agani, one of Rugova's closest collaborators in the Kosovo Democratic League (KDL) was executed on the orders of the r Hashim Thaci.(Tanjug Press Dispatch, 14 May 1999): "If Thaci actually considered Rugova a threat, he would not hesitate to have Rugova removed from the Kosovo political landscape." (Stratfor Comment, "Rugova Faced with a Choice of Two Losses", Stratfor, 29 July 1999). In turn, the KLA has abducted and killed numerous professionals and intellectuals.

And who was behind the 29 year old KLA leader Hashim Thaci: Madeleine Albright and Wesley Clark. (see photos below ).

NATO, the KLA and Al Qaeda

According to a US Department of Defense briefing, so-called "initial contacts" between the KLA and NATO took place in mid-1998, during the first part of General Clark's mandate as NATO Commander in Chief:

"...the realization has come to people [in NATO] that we [NATO led by Wesley Clark] have to have the UCK [acronym for KLA in Albanian] involved in this process because they have shown at least the potential to be rejectionists of any deal that could be worked out there with the existing Kosovo parties. So somehow they have to be brought in and that's why we've made some initial contacts there with the group, hopefully the right people in the group, to try and bring them into this negotiating process." (US Department of Defense, Background Briefing, July 15, 1998)

["Hopefully the right group" means "we deal with people who obey orders."]

While these "initial contacts" were acknowledged by NATO officially only in mid-1998, the KLA had (according to several reports) been receiving "covert support" and training from the CIA and Germany's Bundes Nachrichten Dienst (BND) since the mid-nineties. These covert operations were known and approved by NATO. (Michel Chossudovsky, Kosovo `Freedom Fighters' Financed by Organised Crime, Covert Action Quarterly, 2000)



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27 posted on 01/24/2004 12:18:20 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Destro

28 posted on 01/24/2004 12:18:50 AM PST by kcvl
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To: greenwolf
If it was me, I'd hand Clark, Albright, and both Clintons over to some international war-crimes tribunal

This would make an extremely dangerous precedent and would undo any good the Rome Treaty unsigning accomplished. While I agree that it would not be inappropriate for those individuals to stand trial for war crimes, it ought to be before an impartial American tribunal.

29 posted on 01/24/2004 12:20:55 AM PST by altair
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To: Destro

30 posted on 01/24/2004 12:22:54 AM PST by BunnySlippers (Help Bring Colly-fornia Back ...)
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To: BunnySlippers
I think Bush should reactivate old Wes. We need his military "genius" more than ever now. He can show the troops in Iraq how to destroy 32 tanks with only 1000 tons of bombs.
31 posted on 01/24/2004 12:26:49 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: altair
This would make an extremely dangerous precedent and would undo any good the Rome Treaty unsigning accomplished.

I can't picture any precedent any worse than taking a piece of territory a country (Serbia) had owned for over 1000 years and simply handing it over to a bunch of other people and claiming that breeding power means ownership from now on. The UN could just as easily demand that we give California over to Mexico using the same formula. In fact, we probably ought to expect it.

32 posted on 01/24/2004 4:08:38 AM PST by greenwolf
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To: Texasforever
I think Bush should reactivate old Wes. We need his military "genius" more than ever now. He can show the troops in Iraq how to destroy 32 tanks with only 1000 tons of bombs.

That's 32-paper mache tanks...

33 posted on 01/24/2004 4:09:54 AM PST by greenwolf
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To: Texasforever
I think Bush should reactivate old Wes. We need his military "genius" more than ever now. He can show the troops in Iraq how to destroy 32 tanks with only 1000 tons of bombs.

Not to mention how to bomb neutral foreign embassies.
34 posted on 01/24/2004 7:05:36 AM PST by tjwmason (A voice from Merry England.)
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To: kcvl
During his stint as NATO Supreme commander (1997-2000). Clark had close personal ties with KLA Chief of Staff Commander Brigadier Agim Ceku and KLA Leader Hashim Thaci (see photo below ).

About a year ago the B.B.C. produced a two-part documentary on the invasion of Serbia; in the first part they had people from the K.L.A. describe how they would bomb restaurants, shops &c. without giving warning. In the second they had Secretary Albright saying how she allowed these same terrorists to dictate the terms of the accords, threatening to bomb Serbia. Power has now been given to the K.L.A. which is a terrorist organisation allied with al Qa'eda.

To see the effects of the attacks on Serbia visit http://www.kosovo.com.
35 posted on 01/24/2004 7:13:04 AM PST by tjwmason (A voice from Merry England.)
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Overkill defined The assault on the Branch Davidian religious sect by Federal agents, resulting in the death of over 80 adults and children, is one of the dark moments in U.S. history. The military vehicles used in the raid came from a nearby army base, where they were under the command of General Wesley Clark.

As the Commander 1st Cavalry Division, Fort Hood, Texas (August 1992-April 1994), he transitioned the Division into a rapidly deployable force and conducted three emergency deployments to Kuwait.

The initial reaction of virtually every person who hears about Clark's involvement in the attack on the Mt. Carmel Center of the Branch Davidians outside of Waco, Texas is surprise and/or disbelief: "I thought it was an ATF/FBI operation that went wrong and all the military did was lend a few tanks."

Military Personnel and Equipment

Personnel

Active Duty Personnel - 15
Texas National Guard Personnel - 13

Track vehicles

Bradley fighting vehicle (OMZ) - 9
Combat Engineer Vehicle (M728) - 5
Tank Retrieval vehicle (M88) - 1
Abrams Tanks (M1A1) - 2

(Source: Department of the Treasury, Report of the Department of the Treasury on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms Investigation of Vernon Wayne Howell also known as David Koresh, U.S. Government Printing Office, September 1993)

West Point graduate Joseph Mehrten Jr. tells Insight, "Clark had to have knowledge about the plan because there is no way anyone could have gotten combat vehicles off that base without his OK. The M1A1 Abrams armor is classified 'Secret,' and maybe even 'Top Secret,' and if it was deployed as muscle for something like Waco there would have been National Firearms Act weapons issues. Each of these M1A1 Abrams vehicles is armed with a 125-millimeter cannon, a 50-caliber machine gun and two 30-caliber machine guns, which are all very heavily controlled items, requiring controls much like a chain of legal custody. It is of critical importance that such vehicles could not have been moved for use at Waco without Clark's knowledge."

37 posted on 01/24/2004 1:17:48 PM PST by kcvl
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To: tjwmason
On Meet the Press in November, Clark defended a friendly meeting he had with one of Milosevic's henchmen, General Ratko Mladic (see photo below), who is also wanted for war crimes, including the "ethnic cleansing" massacre of over 7500 Muslim men and boys in the enclave of Srebrenica, an act some describe as "the worst atrocity in Europe since World War II." (BBC Profile: Ratko Mladic) He is presently being sought by Interpol.

A U.S. official has compared Clark's meeting with Mladic to "cavorting with Hermann Goering," the Nazi Reichsmarshall and Luftwaffe-Chief who committed suicide at the Nuremburg trials, after being sentenced to death for crimes committed during World War II. Clark defends it by saying Mladic was not indicted at the time and the meeting was to help bring about a peace treaty.

Mladic was on a government "watch" list of suspected war criminals when he met with Clark. Further, Clark was in violation of State Department's express wishes that he not to meet with the Serb. According to a World New Daily article: "The State Department immediately went into damage-control mode and cabled European embassies to assure them of no change in U.S. policy toward the Bosnian Serbs."

So, while Clark and his apologists downplay the incident as a one-time occasion, the reality was different; his climb up the ranks is said to have stalled for a time at three stars because of his palling around with the bloody murderer. Wesley Clark's meeting with Radko Mladic, though, is far from his last friendly encounter with the sort of uniformed hoodlums American soldiers in the past risked their very lives to defeat. After assuming the NATO Supreme command in1997, Clark had close ties with Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) Chief of Staff Commander Brigadier Agim Ceku and KLA Leader Hashim Thaci, ties which cannot be so easily explained away.

The KLA has justly been described as a group of Marxist-Leninist "narco-terrorists," signifying both its attacks on innocent civilians and its involvement in the illegal drug trade. Despite this well-documented reputation or, perhaps, oblivious to it, Senator Joe Lieberman said: "The United States of America and the Kosovo Liberation Army stand for the same values and principles . . . Fighting for the KLA is fighting for human rights and American values." (Washington Post, Apr.28, 1999) As William Norman Grigg, a senior editor of The New American, points out, Lieberman's equating of Communist thugs with our high-minded principles was seconded by American and British military leaders (including General Wesley Clark) stationed in Kosovo during the war there:

In congressional testimony last December, Ralf Mutschke, assistant director for Interpol’s Criminal Intelligence Directorate, noted: "In 1998, the U.S. State Department listed the KLA as a terrorist organization, indicating that it was financing its operations with money from the international heroin trade and loans from Islamic countries and individuals, among them allegedly Osama bin Laden." According to Mutschke, bin Laden also lent to the KLA the services of one of his military commanders, who led "an elite KLA unit during the Kosovo conflict."

While funding for the KLA may have come from bin Laden, as Mutschke pointed out, training for the KLA’s leaders came from American and British special forces and intelligence personnel. The March 12, 2000 issue of the London Sunday Times disclosed that "American intelligence agents have admitted they helped to train the Kosovo Liberation Army before NATO’s bombing of Yugoslavia," which began in March 1999. CIA officers who were sent to Kosovo supposedly to monitor a cease-fire between the KLA and the Serbian government actually spent their time "developing ties with the KLA and giving American military training manuals and field advice on fighting the Yugoslav army and Serbian police." They also gave KLA commandos such gifts as "satellite telephones and global positioning systems." In fact, several KLA commanders "had the mobile phone number of General Wesley Clark, the NATO commander." (Emphasis added; Behind the Terror Network Apparently, Clark's wasn't the only phone number of an important American possessed by the KLA. Mary Mostert writes: "The group suddenly burst on the world stage in 1998 as the favorite of the Clinton administration under then Secretary of State Madeline Albright, who was reported to have supplied KLA leader, Hasim Thaci, a satellite phone and her personal telephone number.

Wesley Clark, defender of KLA terrorists, joins race to White House)

The March 27th issue of The Herald of London revealed: "Both the UK and the US set up clandestine camps inside Albania to teach the KLA effective guerilla tactics.... Despite government denials on both sides of the Atlantic, SAS [British Special Forces] and US Delta Force instructors were used to train Kosovar Volunteers in weapons handling, demolition and ambush techniques, and basic organization."

To judge from its background, the KLA would seem an unlikely recipient of such favorable attention from the West. New York Times Balkans correspondent Chris Hedges points out that the group’s leadership is composed of "diehard Marxist-Leninists (who were bankrolled in the old days by the Stalinist dictatorship next door in Albania) as well as descendants of the fascist militias raised by the Italians in World War II." The January 21, 1999, issue of the French journal Liberation described the KLA as "totalitarian in its methods," and reported that its leaders have "remained largely true to the Maoist origins of its founders."

In 1993 Croatian Army Brigader General Agim Ceku (later in charge of the KLA) masterminded what is sometimes referred to as the Medak Pocket, a "scorched earth operation" that resulted in the total destruction of three Serbian villages and the massacre of over 100 civilians. From a report of Canadian "peacekeeping" forces, we read:

As the sun rose over the horizon, it revealed a Medak Valley engulfed in smoke and flames. As the frustrated soldiers of 2PPCLI waited for the order to move forward into the pocket, shots and screams still rang out as the ethnic cleansing continued.... About 20 members of the international press had tagged along, anxious to see the Medak battleground. Calvin [a Canadian officer] called an informal press conference at the head of the column and loudly accused the Croats of trying to hide war crimes against the Serb inhabitants. The Croats started withdrawing back to their old lines, taking with them whatever loot they hadn't destroyed. All livestock had been killed and houses torched. French reconnaissance troops and the Canadian command element pushed up the valley and soon began to find bodies of Serb civilians, some already decomposing, others freshly slaughtered.... Finally, on the drizzly morning of Sept. 17, teams of UN civilian police arrived to probe the smoldering ruins for murder victims. Rotting corpses lying out in the open were catalogued, then turned over to the peacekeepers for burial. (Cited, Michel Chossudovsky, NATO has installed a reign of terror in Kosovo)

38 posted on 01/24/2004 1:26:14 PM PST by kcvl
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To: greenwolf
Excellent point, greenwolf.
39 posted on 01/24/2004 10:24:08 PM PST by altair
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To: Texasforever
He can show the troops in Iraq how to destroy 32 tanks with only 1000 tons of bombs.

You owe me a new monitor.Have you ever seen the effect of a rum and coke spewed into one? :-)

40 posted on 01/24/2004 10:27:59 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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