Posted on 01/23/2004 4:37:58 PM PST by Beck_isright
The Hispanics are not going to vote for a Republican in any great numbers NO MATTER WHAT THE PRESIDENT DOES and trying to buy their vote via this proposal, rather than genuinly dealing with the problem of ILLEGALS pouing over the boarder is a disgrace.
If America continues to try to provide for the economic needs of the entire planet we are going to bankrupt ourselves and then we will be in no position to help ANYBODY... not even ourselves.
Until our leaders decide our borders & immigration laws mean something you'd better get used to the idea.
I see Bush's vision as reinforcing this by also dealing with the millions already here. By taking in the overall problem.
Nah. You should know that since you already acknowledged it. " LOL.........Keep up with the news.......right now BP admits to only *busting* 1 out of 3 illegals (border 'watchers' say BP *busts* 1 of every 5), looks like our present *concept* needs a lot more funding. "
Here's a clue. Bush's proposal lowers the demand for entry, because the goods just became more unpalitable. It also makes the price for rushing the border a lot higher.
Just what in Bush's proposal make immigrating to the US illegally less palatable?
He says there "must be strong workplace enforcement", but as of now there isn't any. Why not? It's already the law, all Bush has to do is enforce it. If he needs more money he should go to Congress and ask for it.
I have been working with legal immigrants from the former USSR since 1994 and they are totally against the presidents proposal. Why, because they have entered the country legally and have suffered and strived for many years to do all that our government has asked of them in order to become citizens and the presidents proposal smacks of racial/ethnic favoritism, and injustice. I for one totally agree with their assessment. The proposal stinks to high heaven and I will not support the president or the party in regard to this matter, no matter who tries to sell it to me.
People who are supporting this proposal are not realizing... it's their kids who will suffer more than us.
Why even bother sending them to college when they will be forced to compete with everyone in the world willing to work for minimum wage?
God does not recognize borders. He asked you in particular to Love thy neighbor as thyself. If you are born again then you should recognize the words of He you have accepted.
Luke 16:19-31 "There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores and longing to eat what fell from the rich man's table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores."
The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried. In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'"
But Abraham replied, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.'"
He answered, 'Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.' "Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.'" 'No, father Abraham,' he said, 'but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.'" He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'"
The concept here is to sort out those that are hard working from the criminals.
The Republican Party has taken the conservative block for granted every single election cycle. The pitch is always the same: vote for us, we are the lesser of the two evils, you put us in power and THEN we will try to change things. We vote them in and it continues with "business as usual" they do not take a stand for conservative nominees (instead they allow "gentlemans filibuster" they SAY they support heterosexual marriage, but openly court the homosexual wing of the party and tread lightly so as to not offend them. They say "we are for national security and secure boarders but when push comes to shove, they are GUTLESS wonders, unwilling to take any of the steps necessary to halt the tidal wave of illegal immigrants pouring over the boarder on a daily basis, even fighting sane proposals like mandating that hospitals immediately report illegal aliens seeking free treatment at hospitals within 2 hours of their arrival. "oh no we cant to that, THAT WOULD TURN THE HOSPITAL STAFF INTO AIDDING POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND THE INS."
Well, frankly I have had enough of the lies... my vote is not for sale. If the president and the republicans want it they are going to have to EARN IT. I do not want them to pander to me, I just want them to do the job we ELECTED THEM to do.
The requirements are for the immigrant to have a job. W/o one they will be busted and sent back. That is something that does not occur now, because once they're in no one bothers them. Now I've already gone over how this separates the wheat from the chaff, so the reason why the present situation exists is no longer valid. Folks will only see the troublemakers being deported.
You Again!!! What the hell??
I doubt very seriously it was intended to serve as a template for immigration policy.
I think you already can see the falicy in your argument.
Um, check again, it ain't amnesty... but keep Buchanoning yourself into a corner.
There is some real grasping of straws going on to defend the indefensible. It's almost sad to witness the desperation.
I can empathize. I felt the same way in '86, but we all know what happened to those promises.
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