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The Myth of Poverty in U.S.
Sierra Times ^ | 1/19/04 | Ray Thomas

Posted on 01/23/2004 11:53:45 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

The liberals want us to think there are a lot of "poor people" in America. And there are. But not "poor" as the rest of the world knows it. In some countries the "poorest of the poor" in America would be classed as "rich." The liberals running things here scramble to "raise the bar" on a regular basis, so the number of "poor" will continue to rise, giving them something to demagogue.

The word "poverty" suggests destitution: the inability to provide a family with the basics of life, nutritious food, clothing, and reasonable shelter. A "roof over their heads and "food in their mouths," as it were.

But that's not how they define "poverty" in America. In America, anybody whose way of life doesn't come up to an arbitrary standard set by people who gain if poverty goes up is called "poor." I remember a day when my daughter came home and claimed we were "poor." She had learned that in school. At the time, while weren't rich, I made a good living as a sign painter. I had two cars, a color television, a houseful of furniture, was able to afford a five-bedroom home for my large family to live in, and for me to spend thousands of dollars on two -- count 'em -- TWO model train layouts. One for me and one for my wife. And the schools were teaching our kids that we were "poor."

Does this sound like we were "poor?"

No. Sounds like we were a little above the "norm," and could afford to get along on our own, without help from the "safety net" that has been set up, with our money, by the government, to aid people who made the wrong decisions somewhere along the line and were just "barely" getting by because they didn't bother to learn a trade that would make them enough money to do more than just "get by" with the help of others. If I did it, anybody can do it. All they have to do is work at it like I did.

Today, I make less than I've ever made before in my life, but I have more money to spend, because all my children are out on their own.

I recently had a small stroke and am laid up, being unable to hold down a job like I had before because it's all I can do to stand up and walk and am even now working to regain the use of my left side (it's not paralyzed, just weak and won't do everything I tell it). There are people out there who think I'll just "give up" because I can't work right now to make money. Fortunately, I have a son who has a dependable job, his own home, and can easily help me without "demanding" help from taxpayers. Too many people look first to the government for help in such cases when the first place to go for help should be your family.

People are always wanting to help me (not with money), and are surprised when I refuse, saying "I need to do it myself because you won't be around all the time."

That's the key to not being included in the number of "the poor" in America. I'm working hard to regain the use of my left side and am working as hard as I can at it. I refuse to "go on the dole" and let others support me against their will. I'm gaining more and more strength every day and I expect to be back at work within two weeks, supporting myself. I will not "give up" and just die. I'm too ornery for that.

The "Average poor" in this country are NOT poor. Yes, they don't have all the money they need, and this country helps them all it can. The average "poor household" has, as a rule, at least one color television set, a car, and a large percentage of them own their own homes. This is not "destitution" as the rest of the world understands it.

What about the homeless?

What about them? There aren't nearly as many of them as our politicians (the liberals, mostly) want you to believe, and their numbers have risen in recent years because of cuts in the budgets to take care of people with mental problems. Now, instead of living comfortably in insane asylums, they're on the street because they can't take care of themselves. Some are alcoholics on their last legs. Others just will not work, and most of them receive a check of some kind from various levels of government. One of the hardest jobs is to "collect" the homeless on extremely cold nights to take them to warm shelters. Many of them would rather freeze than be inside four walls. So every winter a certain number of them die.

These people, for the most part, are there because they WANT to be there. Others are too mentally unbalanced to know better and to be able to take care of themselves. These are the "dregs" of society who have no goals in life and would rather stand on street corners for fourteen hours a day in all kinds of weather holding up begging signs than take a job. Meanwhile, jobs at all levels are going begging.

I look in the windows of small business all the time and see "help wanted" signs, which they ignore on their way to the package store or their "assigned" corner. There is no reason for there to be "poor" as the rest of the world knows "poor" in this country. We have too big a "safety net" for people who can't take care of themselves. Big enough, in fact, to include those who WON'T take care of themselves if they'll let us. I've never been "poor" in my life, though there have been times when I made less than the politicians have set as the "poverty threshold." But I've always been able to take care of myself, or not go beyond my family for help when I couldn't (after a stroke).

Yes, most of those jobs don't pay much, but they pay enough to allow these homeless to not be homeless if they're willing to work. Other jobs paying more go begging because people have never trained to qualify for them. There are employers out there BEGGING for "qualified" applicants, but alas, none show up because people who are "homeless" now didn't train to qualify for them in their youth. They just want them without the bother of training for them.

The rest of the world should be as "poor" as we are.



TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: homeless; myth; poverty
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1 posted on 01/23/2004 11:53:45 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Millions of children in America go to bed every night without HDTV or ice cream.
2 posted on 01/23/2004 11:58:49 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
As Will Rogers said, we are the only country in history where the poor drove themselves to the poorhouse in an automobile.
3 posted on 01/23/2004 11:59:53 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Bump
4 posted on 01/23/2004 12:06:32 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Reminds me of that documentary that Kerry Kennedy put on tv about 2-3 years ago on poverty. She and her camera followed this one family in the Appalachians for a period of time. Can't remember the name. Originally, coming from the Appalachians, I could only shake my head in disgust. Kennedy had to pick the bottom of the barrel when she selected this family. My poor momma would identify this family as poor white trash with no redeeming value. The family depended on government assistance. None were educated. None of the members had any morals or values. In one scene, the dad didn't get his medicine on time and swore that he was going to go crazy if the government didn't supply his medicine. And he acted like he was dying. He sat in his rocking chair with his head in his hand. When the name of the medicine was revealed, the medicine wasn't all that important. But this man had been trained to take his pill. Does any other freeper remember this unbelievable waste of time documentary?
5 posted on 01/23/2004 12:07:47 PM PST by lilylangtree
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To: TC Rider
amd millions of poor fat people have plenty of food : )
6 posted on 01/23/2004 12:09:36 PM PST by alisasny (Thankyou to all who made 12/28 party so wonderful in NYC)
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To: biblewonk
Poverty ping.
7 posted on 01/23/2004 12:27:54 PM PST by newgeezer (...until the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.)
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To: TC Rider
Millions of children in America go to bed every night without HDTV or ice cream.

These poor, I mean unfortunate children...

8 posted on 01/23/2004 12:32:11 PM PST by petercooper (Dean is done!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection; Grampa Dave
Today, I make less than I've ever made before in my life, but I have more money to spend,

Prepare to get flamed by the 'forces of gloom'.

9 posted on 01/23/2004 12:34:56 PM PST by expat_panama
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To: lilylangtree
Does any other freeper remember this unbelievable waste of time documentary?

MTV's Real World?
10 posted on 01/23/2004 12:40:23 PM PST by G L Tirebiter
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
And, it is this poverty that makes me want to support Kerry. After all, him and Kennedy are just plain folks with the same kind of money problems that we all have. They understand what we are going through. They've had to pay the slip fees at a decent yacht club. They know how much it costs to insure a VanGogh. They know the cost of round the clock security guards (armed) for their children. Yep, they're just folks and truely understand America's universal poverty.
11 posted on 01/23/2004 12:50:27 PM PST by Tacis
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To: G L Tirebiter
No, that wasn't the name of the documentary.
12 posted on 01/23/2004 12:52:04 PM PST by lilylangtree
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To: lilylangtree
IMDB.com doesn't show any documentary by Kerry Kennedy, at least not with that "plot". There is a Christine Fugate documentary called "Tobacco Blues" that would seem to fit the profile. It's from 1998. Does that seem right?
13 posted on 01/23/2004 12:52:55 PM PST by Jokelahoma (Animal testing is a bad idea. They get all nervous and give wrong answers.)
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To: Jokelahoma
No, it wasn't that either.
14 posted on 01/23/2004 12:53:48 PM PST by lilylangtree
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
America's poor are filthy stinking rich conmpared to the poor of the world!! What is considered poor in this country? You only have ONE phone in your house or ONE television?? I agree that there is miserable poverty in this country but it is due to the not-so-poor and the not-poor-at-all sucking the tit that could prosper those who truly need!!!
15 posted on 01/23/2004 1:05:04 PM PST by 4everontheRight (GW'04 - Rice"08)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
My apologies to everyone. I got the wrong Kennedy. It was Rory not Keri. The name of the waste-of-time documentary was "American Hollow." See the following website for a summary: http://www.horizonmag.com/poverty/rory-kennedy.asp
16 posted on 01/23/2004 1:07:57 PM PST by lilylangtree
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To: lilylangtree
Is that the one where they get their monthly check and head for the grocery store, buy a lot of junk food, and have all their food eaten in a couple of weeks?

That may not be the one you are talking about, but I saw one like you describe years ago, and the image of those kids pouncing on the grocery sacks has stuck with me ever since. I had, all at once, terrible pity and disbelief. I wanted to yell at the TV - buy stuff that will LAST, and don't eat it all so quickly!

I'll never understand why folks like that refuse to learn how to make things better. Enough with the potato chips - buy whole POTATOES! Don't buy those cupcakes - buy loaf bread and peanut butter!

Another thing I'll never forget - when cell phones were new and expensive toys - driving by the housing projects and seeing one of the women using one...

All the housing projects have cable TV, too. I can't stand it. Here, take ALL my money.
17 posted on 01/23/2004 1:25:08 PM PST by HeadOn (It's me, it's me, it's Ernest T. !)
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To: lilylangtree
Nope. - That ain't the one I saw........
18 posted on 01/23/2004 1:31:06 PM PST by HeadOn (It's me, it's me, it's Ernest T. !)
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To: Tacis
There's nothing wrong with the wealth let alone who achieves it. In instances such as these, where people attempt to portray themselves as something they aren't, whether affluent or not, the truth is quickly obviously. And more people are realizing it.
19 posted on 01/23/2004 1:32:05 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection (www.whatyoucrave.com)
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To: HeadOn
I don't recall that scene. "American Hollow" had another scene where the teenage unemployed son (about 16 years old) wanted to get married to this 15-year-old girl but she refused. The camera followed him around being angry that she refused. Made me nauseous.
20 posted on 01/23/2004 1:33:47 PM PST by lilylangtree
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