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NASA detects communication from too-quiet Mars rover
Houston Comical ^ | 1/23/04 | Mark Carreau and AP Staff

Posted on 01/23/2004 7:06:26 AM PST by The_Victor

NASA's Spirit rover communicated with Earth in a signal detected by NASA's Deep Space Network antenna complex near Madrid, Spain, at about 6:30 a.m. CST.

The signal came as anxious NASA engineers at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., tried to communicate with the rover today and to diagnose and possibly patch up their ailing robotic patient after two days without receiving any significant data.

"We know we have a very serious anomaly on the vehicle," said NASA's Pete Theisinger, the Mars Rover project manager. "Our ability to determine exactly what has happened has been limited by our inability to receive telemetry (communications)."

This morning's signal lasted 10 minutes during a communication window of about 90 minutes.

Mission controllers plan to send commands to Spirit seeking additional data today.

Engineers had hoped Spirit would manage to send some engineering data, which can be used to assess the health of the spacecraft, pinpoint any problems and allow NASA to begin working on a potential fix or fixes. Officials had said the next best opportunity for actual data to come from the rover was between 5 and 11 a.m. today.

Since Wednesday, its 19th day on Mars, the Spirit has sent back to Earth only meaningless radio noise or simple beeps acknowledging receipt of commands.

Among the possible problems: a corruption of its software or computer memory. If the software is awry, NASA can fix it from Earth by beaming patches across more than 100 million miles of space or by rebooting the rover's computer. But if the problem lies with the rover's hardware, the situation would be far more grave -- perhaps beyond repair.

Experts sifted through other possible explanations -- a power loss or difficulties in the control computer in its communications gear.

Baffled scientists struggled to pinpoint the trouble.

"It is precisely like trying to diagnose a patient with different symptoms that don't corroborate," said Firouz Naderi, manager of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory Mars exploration program.

The timing of the failure was especially worrisome because Spirit's twin rover, Opportunity, is barreling toward a landing on the other side of the planet late Saturday. The two events threatened to strain the manpower available to manage Opportunity's risky landing and attempt to recover Spirit.

With Opportunity fast approaching Mars, managers faced the prospect of setting Spirit's problems aside until after Saturday's landing. However, if the difficulties could be traced to a software problem, Theisinger was more confident experts could address the problem quickly.

"If this problem on Spirit is somehow a software corruption or a memory corruption issue reflected in software and not a serious power fault, then I think Spirit can go for quite a long time and we can pick up the pieces again," said Theisinger.

"If on the other hand we have some kind of major power fault, that has life-limiting characteristics of course. It may also be more difficult to recover from that."

Spirit relies on solar arrays to convert sunlight into electricity for its operations. The power consumption is reduced during the Martian night when the spacecraft goes into an electronic slumber that is interrupted each morning with commands from Earth containing instructions for the day's work.

Spirit's response early Thursday to a command -- it sent some beeps -- offered some optimism to flight controllers that the spacecraft was producing electricity and that its computer and its communications equipment were working.

But the lack of more data left the experts guessing and troubleshooting through the night. Theisinger said mission managers were weighing options before attempting to send further significant sets of instructions for the 383-pound, six-wheeled rover.

Engineers did not believe that weather on Mars caused the problem, although winds sweep through the crater where the rover landed.

Spirit descended into Gusev Crater late on Jan. 3, and rolled off its lander last week to begin testing soil and rock samples for any evidence that life-sustaining water filled or flowed through the large depression.

Spirit is parked close to the lander near a football-size rock that has been christened Adirondack. The last instructions beamed to Spirit, early Wednesday, were for the rover to examine the mineral composition of the stone and to turn on a drilling tool.

Mars has proved a difficult but compelling target for scientists. Spirit was only the fourth of 13 spacecraft to complete the seven-month journey successfully over the past 34 years.




TOPICS: Breaking News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jpl; mars; nasa; spirit
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To: Dog
Galileo also lost its high gain antenna and never recovered from that. The mission still went on, but at a data rate about 1/100 of the Voyager spacecraft that orbited Saturn.
101 posted on 01/23/2004 10:19:31 AM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
Is this a fixable problem?
102 posted on 01/23/2004 10:21:30 AM PST by Dog ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our Country")
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
Did they confirm the high gain is gone for sure and can't be fixed?
103 posted on 01/23/2004 10:22:42 AM PST by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: labowski
Looks like a footprint...there's the "conspiracy"
104 posted on 01/23/2004 10:28:26 AM PST by hattend
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To: hattend
cool new picture of the bounce track...
Spirit's bounce pattern

105 posted on 01/23/2004 10:29:27 AM PST by Slicksadick
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To: TexasGunLover; Dog
I didn't hear the whole press conference - I did hear that they admitted to having problems with the high gain antenna. I can't tell you if its fixable or not.

But it is serious. They will need to examine lots and lots of data to determine where the problem is, and since they are restricted at the awful speed of 120/bits a second it will take a VERY LONG TIME to collect enough information.

106 posted on 01/23/2004 10:32:38 AM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: SubSailor
I can't believe we are considering this when we're not sure if Social Security will still be solvent by the time the last baby boomers retire.

I would prefer they distribute THIS fund back to those who paid into it and dissolve the Social Security Administration. Unfortunately, it's already insolvent, there is no "fund", it's a Ponzi scheme. So it can't just end because then taxpayers will know the truth.

On to Mars!

107 posted on 01/23/2004 10:33:29 AM PST by hattend
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To: SubSailor
"A branch of mathematics" that specifically deals this basic numerical operations. The solution to 800mil/300mil is "math" it is also more precisely (and correctly) defined as arithmetic. Mathematics is the broader term which includes tensor/field mathematics, differetial equations, calculus, algebra, geometry, and finally arithmetic.
108 posted on 01/23/2004 10:34:21 AM PST by The_Victor
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To: reegs
And, if he's implying there's someone/something walking around on Mars, not only does it have only one leg, it's amazing how similar their footwear is to ours!

ROFL! Of course, Hoagland being Hoagland, is implying exactly that. He's saying that the Rover was about to transmit something "they" (some kind've shadow government black ops thing) don't want the public to know, namely that there either is, or was, sentient life on Mars. Hoagland believes that ancient Martians were the source of human life on Earth. Further, the shadow government knows that if Christians found out about this, they would freak out and commit homicides, suicides, and general chaos and mayhem en masse.

Folks, if you don't listen to Hoagland on Coast to Coast, you're really missing some great entertainment!!

109 posted on 01/23/2004 10:34:49 AM PST by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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To: N3WBI3

110 posted on 01/23/2004 10:36:09 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (WARNING! The dumbocRATs will self-destruct before the 04 elections!!!)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
Boy, I'm good.

You're a FReeper aren't you?

111 posted on 01/23/2004 10:37:23 AM PST by The_Victor
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To: Slicksadick
Thanks!
112 posted on 01/23/2004 10:39:47 AM PST by hattend
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To: theDentist
Actually when it lands, it will roll like a barrel several times - and bounce like a ball too.
113 posted on 01/23/2004 11:09:46 AM PST by CarryaBigStick
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To: lonevoice; reegs; labowski; evets
>Hoagland believes that ancient Martians were the source of human life on Earth. Further, the shadow government knows that if Christians found out about this, they would freak

If you look closely
at all of Hoagland's writings,
you'll see he believes

much more than just that.
He believes some "group" today
has "hyper ships" that

can move asteroids
around the solar system,
and Hoagland hints that

there are "power" groups
here on earth that have contact
with the ship people...

(Hoagland would be more
interesting if he would
stop finding his "clues"

in bad TV shows,
but at least his theories are
pretty ambitious...)

114 posted on 01/23/2004 12:12:13 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss
Hello theFIRMbss,

can you please tell me why you formated (is it "format" or "formated"?) your posting this way? I've seen several postings from different people on different forums who write this way and always wanted to ask but never bothered to post the question or register an account. But now the time has come... :)

Thanks,


hawe
115 posted on 01/23/2004 2:26:47 PM PST by hawe
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To: Giddyupgo
That's how he makes his money.
116 posted on 01/23/2004 3:29:20 PM PST by ol' hoghead (This tag line made with genuine, imitation plastic-accept no substitutes.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Oh man...imagine the revalidation they're gonna have to do if they make a software code change...yeaooowwwwch! APCS work from here to Mars...and WHO??? is gonna sign off THAT VCR package??

Har Har...
117 posted on 01/23/2004 3:43:41 PM PST by GRRRRR (Love America? Vote Republican)
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To: gonzo; DB; <1/1,000,000th%; 68 grunt; AdmSmith; Alamo-Girl; anymouse; balrog666; BellStar; blam; ...
HOWLIN . . . Perhaps we can compare PING lists, do a sort for duplicates and weed out deadbeats like . . . uh . . . oh, say . . . uh . . . bonesmccoy?

Show me yours and I'll show you mine?


If you'd like to be on or off this MARS ping list please FRail me

118 posted on 01/23/2004 4:18:35 PM PST by Phil V.
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To: Phil V.
Uh oh. Ping list weeding.
Good luck.
119 posted on 01/23/2004 4:22:34 PM PST by Darksheare (This is a normal tagline, there is nothing to fear.. feaR... FeAr...FEAR.)
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To: Phil V.
Thanks for the ping!
120 posted on 01/23/2004 4:38:43 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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