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NASA detects communication from too-quiet Mars rover
Houston Comical ^ | 1/23/04 | Mark Carreau and AP Staff

Posted on 01/23/2004 7:06:26 AM PST by The_Victor

NASA's Spirit rover communicated with Earth in a signal detected by NASA's Deep Space Network antenna complex near Madrid, Spain, at about 6:30 a.m. CST.

The signal came as anxious NASA engineers at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., tried to communicate with the rover today and to diagnose and possibly patch up their ailing robotic patient after two days without receiving any significant data.

"We know we have a very serious anomaly on the vehicle," said NASA's Pete Theisinger, the Mars Rover project manager. "Our ability to determine exactly what has happened has been limited by our inability to receive telemetry (communications)."

This morning's signal lasted 10 minutes during a communication window of about 90 minutes.

Mission controllers plan to send commands to Spirit seeking additional data today.

Engineers had hoped Spirit would manage to send some engineering data, which can be used to assess the health of the spacecraft, pinpoint any problems and allow NASA to begin working on a potential fix or fixes. Officials had said the next best opportunity for actual data to come from the rover was between 5 and 11 a.m. today.

Since Wednesday, its 19th day on Mars, the Spirit has sent back to Earth only meaningless radio noise or simple beeps acknowledging receipt of commands.

Among the possible problems: a corruption of its software or computer memory. If the software is awry, NASA can fix it from Earth by beaming patches across more than 100 million miles of space or by rebooting the rover's computer. But if the problem lies with the rover's hardware, the situation would be far more grave -- perhaps beyond repair.

Experts sifted through other possible explanations -- a power loss or difficulties in the control computer in its communications gear.

Baffled scientists struggled to pinpoint the trouble.

"It is precisely like trying to diagnose a patient with different symptoms that don't corroborate," said Firouz Naderi, manager of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory Mars exploration program.

The timing of the failure was especially worrisome because Spirit's twin rover, Opportunity, is barreling toward a landing on the other side of the planet late Saturday. The two events threatened to strain the manpower available to manage Opportunity's risky landing and attempt to recover Spirit.

With Opportunity fast approaching Mars, managers faced the prospect of setting Spirit's problems aside until after Saturday's landing. However, if the difficulties could be traced to a software problem, Theisinger was more confident experts could address the problem quickly.

"If this problem on Spirit is somehow a software corruption or a memory corruption issue reflected in software and not a serious power fault, then I think Spirit can go for quite a long time and we can pick up the pieces again," said Theisinger.

"If on the other hand we have some kind of major power fault, that has life-limiting characteristics of course. It may also be more difficult to recover from that."

Spirit relies on solar arrays to convert sunlight into electricity for its operations. The power consumption is reduced during the Martian night when the spacecraft goes into an electronic slumber that is interrupted each morning with commands from Earth containing instructions for the day's work.

Spirit's response early Thursday to a command -- it sent some beeps -- offered some optimism to flight controllers that the spacecraft was producing electricity and that its computer and its communications equipment were working.

But the lack of more data left the experts guessing and troubleshooting through the night. Theisinger said mission managers were weighing options before attempting to send further significant sets of instructions for the 383-pound, six-wheeled rover.

Engineers did not believe that weather on Mars caused the problem, although winds sweep through the crater where the rover landed.

Spirit descended into Gusev Crater late on Jan. 3, and rolled off its lander last week to begin testing soil and rock samples for any evidence that life-sustaining water filled or flowed through the large depression.

Spirit is parked close to the lander near a football-size rock that has been christened Adirondack. The last instructions beamed to Spirit, early Wednesday, were for the rover to examine the mineral composition of the stone and to turn on a drilling tool.

Mars has proved a difficult but compelling target for scientists. Spirit was only the fourth of 13 spacecraft to complete the seven-month journey successfully over the past 34 years.




TOPICS: Breaking News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jpl; mars; nasa; spirit
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To: labowski
I don't see any foot prints, however it does look like the rock in question has been disturbed. You can see it's impression in the soil and that it has moved up and to the right.
No big deal , could have been disturbed when the lander bounced to a stop
81 posted on 01/23/2004 8:28:25 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire with meetings, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: evets
Boots? We are talking hip waders there. That guy is such a KOOK! He's making David Ickes look respectable at this point.
82 posted on 01/23/2004 8:28:42 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: sarasota
I'm speculating that we won't see Mars habitats during our lifetime.

Maybe. But we have the ability, so we should be working on it. The asteroid/comet impact risk is real and probably inevitable. The best way to insure mankind's survival is with self supporting colonies on other planets.

And in the end, our solar system will self-destruct.

In which case we'd better be further out than the solar system when the time comes.

Yeah, I know, I the timeframe I'm thinking of is in the loony longterm. :)

83 posted on 01/23/2004 8:29:16 AM PST by The_Victor
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To: demlosers
Finally, somebody gets it. I'm quite amused at how many responses I got to my original post about the rover costing too much money. I was only hoping for 1 and I got several! Just so I could set up my "two dollars" post. LOL.
84 posted on 01/23/2004 8:33:24 AM PST by SubSailor (I think we're all bozos on this bus.)
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To: SubSailor
Your tag line brought back some funny college memories..."See you on the Funway."
85 posted on 01/23/2004 8:42:48 AM PST by Dixiekraut (qb....)
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To: SubSailor
HOWEVER, the cost of this project was over 800 million dollars. How many people are in the USA? Around 300 million? I would have much preferred cancelling this project and distributing the cash equally among every citizen in the USA.

That works out to about $2.67 per person. It's your choice to be short-sighted (IMHO) but I consider it money well spent. Yes, I would prefer to see it done by private enterprise but the game is rigged so that this is the only way to play.

And, for those who think robotic missions are the way to go, if there were a person along on this mission, the problem might well be able to be diagnosed and fixed. That's not so certain by remote and, if it fails, makes the ROI much less appealing, even to me. Robots have their place, and I think we ought to be peppering the universe with them, but you can't beat a human for exploration and handling the unexpected.

People are more versatile than machines. And more curious. And more cautious. Makes for a strange breed.

86 posted on 01/23/2004 8:48:20 AM PST by Elric@Melnibone (Adventure is worthy in itself. - Amelia Earhart)
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To: The_Victor
"We know we have a very serious anomaly on the vehicle," said NASA's Pete Theisinger . . .

As the President said in Armageddon, "Enough of this 'anomaly' horseshit, what do we have here?"

87 posted on 01/23/2004 8:52:08 AM PST by geedee (Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.)
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To: The_Victor
LOL..Rush sez the Rover has completed the secret communications with Haliburton and can now "wake up" and communicate with NASA.
88 posted on 01/23/2004 9:23:59 AM PST by evad (Welcome back Joe Gibbs...we've been waitin')
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To: The_Victor
Arithmetic (from Webster's, italics mine)

1 a : a branch of mathematics that deals usually with the nonnegative real numbers including sometimes the transfinite cardinals and with the application of the operations of addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division to them b : a treatise on arithmetic

89 posted on 01/23/2004 9:24:52 AM PST by SubSailor (I think we're all bozos on this bus.)
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To: Dixiekraut
Your tag line brought back some funny college memories..."See you on the Funway."

Not many people recognize that nowadays

"Mr. President, where can I get a job?!"

90 posted on 01/23/2004 9:27:25 AM PST by SubSailor (I think we're all bozos on this bus.)
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To: SubSailor
"Where the vegetables are green,and you can pee in the stream.....and that's important!"
91 posted on 01/23/2004 9:46:03 AM PST by Dixiekraut (qb....)
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To: evad; bonfire; RadioAstronomer; bonesmccoy; Ernest_at_the_Beach; GeronL; glock rocks; Phil V.; ...
Press conference NOW!

It's talking...sort of!
92 posted on 01/23/2004 10:04:13 AM PST by Howlin (Come on, Johnny, pull for the Panthers!)
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To: Dixiekraut
"Can you hear me now?"
93 posted on 01/23/2004 10:04:34 AM PST by Jason Kauppinen
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To: SubSailor
I wonder if Howard Dean is reading this thread and screaming silently.
94 posted on 01/23/2004 10:07:57 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Howlin
Sounds like it has a software problem....
95 posted on 01/23/2004 10:08:25 AM PST by Dog ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our Country")
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To: The_Victor
Boy, I'm good. Just heard on Fox that NASA reps are blaming the high-gain antenna. I predicted that in post 80.
96 posted on 01/23/2004 10:08:25 AM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
So what does that mean??
97 posted on 01/23/2004 10:09:03 AM PST by Dog ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our Country")
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To: MrsEmmaPeel; Howlin
Live coverage on CSPAN...
98 posted on 01/23/2004 10:10:36 AM PST by Dog ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our Country")
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To: Dog
So what does that mean??

If they are restricted to only 120 bits/second then forget pretty pictures. All they can do is transmit and receive a minimalist instruction/command set to the spacecraft.

It means the mission has taken a new kink - as every command well need to be acked. Every command will be received S-L-O-W-L-Y and ever ack will come back V-E-R-Y S-L-O-W-L-Y

99 posted on 01/23/2004 10:17:08 AM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: SubSailor
Where's my fuzzy duffle bag?
100 posted on 01/23/2004 10:18:24 AM PST by truthandjustice1
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