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Gap widening between Bush and conservatives
Townhall.com ^ | January 23, 2004 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 01/23/2004 5:23:57 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy

Gap widening between Bush and conservatives


Jonah Goldberg

I thought President Bush's State of the Union address was fine. It wasn't outrageously long. He drew a bright line between himself and his critics on the war in Iraq, the Patriot Act, Social Security Reform, etc. He delivered it well, and the nudity was tasteful and integral to the plot.

As luck - or bad timing - would have it, I was invited to Manhattan to address the New York State Conservative Party right before the president addressed the nation. It seemed only fitting since the subject of my speech was the conflict between Bush's "compassionate conservatism" and traditional conservatism. You see, conservatives in New York City have suffered more and for longer than conservatives in the rest of America. Trust me, I grew up on New York City's Upper West Side. We felt like Christians in Ancient Rome.

Well, after three years with George W. Bush at the helm, many conservatives are starting to feel like we've been sent to the catacombs. Don't get me wrong. Out in real America where most Americans - liberal and conservative - don't focus on politics every day, Bush is still doing very well. And, even among conservatives, Bush has considerable political support. But among ideological and intellectual conservatives, emotional support for Bush is starting to ebb.

I can't point to anything scientific. But if you pay attention to what conservatives are saying at meetings and in magazines, on the Web and at the think tanks, as well as what readers, friends, colleagues and sources say, there's a definite undercurrent of discontent with the president.

For some it started with his plan to offer amnesty-lite to illegal immigrants. For others, it's his fence-sitting on gay marriage. For others, like me, it was his signing of the campaign finance reform bill even though he thought it was unconstitutional. Or maybe it was his support for steel tariffs. Or the farm bill. I forget.

Anyway that doesn't matter. What unites pretty much all of these grumblers is a deep sense of, well, disgust with how much this administration is spending.

When it comes to taxpayer dollars, this is the second most "generous" administration in American history, second only to that of another Texan, Lyndon Johnson. There may be good aspects to George Bush's "compassionate conservatism," though on the whole I never liked it, but it's clear that compassion doesn't come cheap at the Bush White House, on whose watch overall spending from 2001 to 2003 grew at 16 percent and discretionary spending went up 27 percent. That's double Bill Clinton's rate.

Bush's defenders are eager to point to the war on terrorism as an excuse for increased spending. Fine. But that's only a small part of the story.

Under Bush, spending on education has gone up 60.8 percent, on labor 56 percent and on the Department of the Interior by 23.4 percent . The price tag for the president's Medicare plan alone starts, but won't end, at $400 billion. The farm bill was a pork horror show, pure and simple. More people work for the federal government now than at any time since the end of the Cold War.

Brian Riedl of the Heritage Foundation sums it up this way: "Overall for 2003, the federal government spent $20,300 per household, taxed $16,780 per household, and ran a budget deficit of $3,520 per household."

The reason most Americans haven't heard a lot about all this is twofold. Conservatives have stayed relatively quiet and liberals have controlled the anti-Bush microphone.

Democratic presidential candidates and interest groups have been screeching that the president is gutting education and abandoning the elderly. Obviously this is nonsense on tall stilts, since Bush is spending a lot more on both than Bill Clinton ever did.

In fact, on Medicare and education, for example, the Dems think Bush is being stingy. And a study by the National Taxpayers Union found that each and every one of the Democrats running for president have plans that would raise the deficit even more, from $169.6 billion under Joe Lieberman to - get this - $1.33 trillion under Al Sharpton.

Conservative opposition to such overspending is more complex than the media and the left think. Some just don't like red ink. Others think big government erodes freedom and traditional arrangements. Others believe it slowly inoculates the citizenry to greater levels of social engineering.

Whatever the reasons, conservatives - as opposed to partisan Republicans - have sincere misgivings about the kind of presidency Bush is conducting. A lot of compassionate conservatism is smart politics for the Republican Party, and some of it is even good policy. And, yes, conservatives understand that the GOP is practically the only place they have a real impact in electoral politics.

But I'm not sure George Bush understands how much he is asking from those who brought him to the dance.


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To: Lazamataz
Expect him to strenuously push for, and sign, a much more restrictive Assault Weapons Ban.

Expect him to not even mention the Assault Weapons Ban.

21 posted on 01/23/2004 5:43:26 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: Lazamataz
I do wish we had a republican running in this election. (SARCASM OFF)

But, to be honest I have read JFK's domestic agenda during his term and he was more conservative the GWB is looking now. And that is just wrong!
22 posted on 01/23/2004 5:43:36 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: Pietro; Apple Pan Dowdy
Ted Kennedy went on the record yesterday to ask for $100 billion increase in all Medicare, Medicaid, and Prescription drug benefits.

I think this is just a preview of what will happen to the budget if a Democrat gets into office.

23 posted on 01/23/2004 5:44:58 AM PST by carton253 (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States and war is what they got! (W)
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To: carton253; new cruelty
BTW, new cruelty reminded me of a quote made by GW Bush in Crawford, Texas last year, in which Bush states: "I will strenuously push for and sign a much more restrictive Assault Weapons ban."

It was reported by all the networks.

24 posted on 01/23/2004 5:45:14 AM PST by Lazamataz (The Republicans have turned into Democrats, and the Democrats have turned into Marxists.)
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To: sinkspur
Expect him to not even mention the Assault Weapons Ban.

I hope you're tight.

I fear you're wrong.

25 posted on 01/23/2004 5:45:56 AM PST by Lazamataz (The Republicans have turned into Democrats, and the Democrats have turned into Marxists.)
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To: Lazamataz
Morphing into Wesley Clark is certainly humorous, but it is not exactly a good way to actually win debates.

There are plenty of things for conservatives to grumble about with Bush. No need to embellish. Doing so just spins everything off topic and makes it less likely we'll be effective in getting the administration's attention.
26 posted on 01/23/2004 5:47:35 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: Lazamataz; William McKinley
Informed speculation.

I think the word "informed" is in the eye of the beholder. LOL!

To me, it sounds a little like "chicken little" praying that the sky will fall down so she will have something to complain about.

27 posted on 01/23/2004 5:48:23 AM PST by carton253 (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States and war is what they got! (W)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
Whatever the reasons, conservatives - as opposed to partisan Republicans - have sincere misgivings about the kind of presidency Bush is conducting.
28 posted on 01/23/2004 5:50:29 AM PST by KantianBurke (2+2 does NOT equal 5)
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To: carton253
I think the word "informed" is in the eye of the beholder. LOL!

Opinions are like aholes. Everyone's got one and usually they stink.

29 posted on 01/23/2004 5:51:39 AM PST by Lazamataz (The Republicans have turned into Democrats, and the Democrats have turned into Marxists.)
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To: Lazamataz; carton253
BTW, new cruelty reminded me of a quote made by GW Bush in Crawford, Texas last year, in which Bush states: "I will strenuously push for and sign a much more restrictive Assault Weapons ban."

It was reported by all the networks.


30 posted on 01/23/2004 5:52:17 AM PST by new cruelty (Better the devil you know than the devil don't)
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To: Lazamataz
You always have had a way with words.

:>)
31 posted on 01/23/2004 5:53:23 AM PST by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: William McKinley
There are plenty of things for conservatives to grumble about with Bush.

My number one issue is gun control. It's how I discovered conservatism.

This son-of-a-Bush has been so bad on every conservative issue so far that -- and be honest with yourself here -- can't you just visualize him pushing for and signing a much more restrictive Assault Weapons ban?

32 posted on 01/23/2004 5:53:34 AM PST by Lazamataz (The Republicans have turned into Democrats, and the Democrats have turned into Marxists.)
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To: TLBSHOW
Glad to see ya back, pal. :o)

BTW, Mojo's back too.

33 posted on 01/23/2004 5:54:11 AM PST by Lazamataz (The Republicans have turned into Democrats, and the Democrats have turned into Marxists.)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
"I can't point to anything scientific"

Thus this is merely opinion. Let the wailing and gnashing of teeth begin.

34 posted on 01/23/2004 5:54:56 AM PST by verity
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To: Lazamataz; Apple Pan Dowdy
I have one point I wish for you to consider, if you would be so kind. If a dem spent money they it has been spent in the past few years, if a dem sign the pill bill, if a dem affected our constitutional rights the way finance reform and the patriot act have (I am very skeptical of any attack on my rights for any reason.), if a dem proposed the amnesty, if a dem says that he sign an extention to the assault weapons ban, if a dem grew the size of government the way this President has we would all be howling mad and marching on Washington with torches.

I am not saying that GWB does not have many positives, he does but to me his negative now out weight them. If he, for example, would drop the amnesty and cut spending I would be happy to reevaluate him. I am not naive enough to think I can ever get all I want from a politicain in terms of his views, but now the issues he is for that I oppose are more to me then those I agree with him.

35 posted on 01/23/2004 5:55:26 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: Lazamataz
Nice try, though.

C'mon Laz...you said that "He said it", but then try to turn it around by saying you can't provide proof of a future event? All we are asking for is the statement that you stated Bush made. If he made a statement about pushing for and signing a more restrictive AWB, it would be a past event...so provide a quote please. Otherwise, you are merely using your crystal ball to spread disinformation...that's not like you.

36 posted on 01/23/2004 5:55:29 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: TLBSHOW
I couldn't beleive my eyes when I saw you.

Welcome back
37 posted on 01/23/2004 5:55:48 AM PST by The Mayor (The best peacemakers are those who know the peace of God.)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
...It will be interesting to see here whether we can discuss this very real and threatening issue without "bashing" the President we all love so much....

We don't all love him that much.
38 posted on 01/23/2004 5:57:42 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: new cruelty; Lazamataz; William McKinley
The cartoon is cute...

You are not... LOL!

By the way... I will do your and Laz's job for you.

According to the White House site, the President does support the current assault weapon ban...

Lately, on Free Republic there have been alot of "accusations" and "charges" made without proof. These over generalizations of positions and beliefs about what will happen in the future usually denigrate into a name calling slug fest.

Proof usually melts away any opposition.

That said... can anyone tell me why anyone would need to own an assault weapon?

39 posted on 01/23/2004 5:58:40 AM PST by carton253 (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States and war is what they got! (W)
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To: Lazamataz
You said I said he said that?

In Post #5, you stated "He said it".

40 posted on 01/23/2004 5:59:10 AM PST by ravingnutter
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