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To: neverdem
I would have thought Reason would have spent more time on the statements Frum/Perle made on civil liberties including their recommendation for a national ID system:

We ought to learn a lesson from the most effective anticrime program the United States has ever seen: Mayor Rudolph Giuliani's crack down in New York. Giuliani's core insight was this: People who break one law will break other laws. You want to catch a guy who's skipped out on a manslaughter arrest warrant? Stop every turnstile jumper and inspect his ID. You want to find the killer who left his fingerprints on a knife that stabbed a kid to death yesterday? Scan the fingerprints of everybody you catch smoking marijuana in the park today. (pg 68)

And there is only one system that will do the job: a national identity card that registers the bearer's name and biometric data, like fingerprints or retinal scans or DNA, and that indicates whether the bearer is a citizen, a permanent resident, or a temporary resident... (pg 70)

We may be so eager to protect the right to dissent that we lose sight of the difference between dissent and subversion... (pg 74)

A free society is not an unpoliced society. A free society is a self-policed society. (pg 77)

But even a nation of laws must understand the limits of legalism. Between 1861 and 1865, the government of the United States took tens of thousands of American citizens prisoner and detained them for years without letting any one of them see a lawyer. (pg 229)
5 posted on 01/22/2004 12:21:27 PM PST by JohnGalt ("How few were left who had seen the Republic!"- Tacitus)
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To: JohnGalt
I would have thought Reason would have spent more time on the statements Frum/Perle made on civil liberties including their recommendation for a national ID system:

"If you are innocent you have nothing to be afraid of." </sarcasm>

6 posted on 01/22/2004 12:25:54 PM PST by Reelect President Dubya (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: JohnGalt
Are the pages you referenced from "An End to Evil"?

It is time for a discussion of a national identification card.

Bratton was the architect of Guliani's crime reduction strategy. It will be interesting to watch how he and his strategy fares in the politics of Los Angeles.
12 posted on 01/22/2004 12:49:12 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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