[GSWarrior]

Sorry, that site is for colleges and universities....but I know I've seen a similar site for high schools....

[CobaltBlue]

I discussed these matters, and more, with my own kids during the recount process, and afterwards. I think it does raise some very interesting questions.

If it were me, I'd tell my son that a lot of Gore's supporters do see it that way, and will probably always see it that way. But the truth of the matter is that the deliberations of the Supreme Court are secret, always have been, although from time to time a justice may comment generally on a case long after it was decided. So, bottom line, there really is no way to know why the Court did what it did at the time it did. It is probably fair to say that there is at least an appearance of impropriety. If the Supreme Court had ordered a new, fairer recount, that would have delayed the inauguration, but Bush still would have been the winner, according to news sources that have viewed the actual ballots after the fact.

Was it worth causing so much hard feelings between Democrats and Republicans? Sometimes these things happen. How do we, as Americans, deal with these hard feelings in the political process?

It might be instructive to look at the dissenting opinions, and talk about what would have happened if they had prevailed. If I recall correctly, even some of the liberal judges thought that the way it was being done in Florida was wrong.

In other words, I would respect your son's right to have a different opinion, but would express my own opinion.

I think that, even though Michael Moore is really just an entertainer, he can be very funny. I just don't think he holds himself to a very high standard of veracity. My younger son and I watched the recent movie about gun control, and we both laughed a lot, but afterwards we talked about how he misrepresented the facts, as well as made some interesting points.

But maybe your style is to tell your son "the truth from on high" - in which case, best of luck to you.

[Blood of Tyrants]

As Freeper Richard Kimball says about demanding recounts until your candidate is ahead, that is an old Democrat tactic.

Ask him why a machine recount was less fair than a manual recount, after all, the machine has no agenda, no political alliances, and no bias. Isn't a fair and impartial count all that we want?

Challenge you son to come up with a method to determine how many times is it fair to demand a recount and a method to determine who would be the winner if one recount declared a different winner than the others. Why would the last recount be more valid than the first or second?

[Sloth]

Give your son Bill Sammons' book, 'At Any Cost.'

[reluctantwarrior]

Your son is either mature and open to both sides or he is easily influenced by the teacher as an authority figure. If its the latter then you'll engender some resistance if you simply flame the teacher as a lib. Offer a choice of several sources for the 'truth' in the Florida voting debacle, perhaps the most authoritative is the liberal newspapers, NY times and the Palm Beach paper did a lengthy post SCOTUS investigation and quietly reported that Bush won no matter which standard for vote counting is used.

[quack]

(who lives away from home @ a boys center in Sonoma)

Why does your son live away at a boys center?Is this something that is usual in California,like a prep school or something?

[GOPrincess]

My daughter had to deal with this kind of propaganda in her AP Euro History class as a 9th grader in Orange County, CA -- Anti-war, Anti-Bush propaganda, pro Gray Davis, etc.

She had the school's 10-minute "free reading" period in that class and made quite a show of carrying around and reading books by Ann Coulter, Barbara Olson and the like :).

She is very savvy re politics and has handled it well, though it disgusts me having her objected to that kind of malarkey -- it's a terrible commentary on the directions our schools are headed. My younger three children are in private school or homeschooling!

[Sloth]

how the Supreme Court stopped the Florida count when it looked like AlGore was going to win.

I'm wondering how one could say that a recount "looked like" it was going to have a particular result different from the first count, unless you knew there was a factor in the counting besides random chance. Which, of course, every honest observer did.

[RightField]

The only thing you can do is deprogram the kid daily

I agree. We homeschooled our son through 8th grade (and my husband--his father--is a public high school teacher!) He entered his father's high school in 9th grade and is now a junior. He is not there for the academics, believe me. He's there because he's a great athlete and wanted to play sports.

We spend a significant amount of time, however relearning and deprogramming. He has had nothing but leftist drivel, especially from the English Department. Having not been been exposed to socialist junk called "public education" until now, my son is quick to see the leftist bent of his teachers. This time in public school is good for him in one way, in that he's honing his skills at spotting the fallacies and outright lies that are foisted upon public school students as facts.

[MamaLucci]

This is an eye opener:

"Explicit statistical evidence of massive ballot tampering in Palm Beach, Fl" Robert A. Cook, PE

[boris]

Demand equal time. Atlas Shrugged for balance.

[sauron]

The best book on the subject of the 2000 election--by far and without peer--is Bill Sammon's book At Any Cost: How Al Gore Tried to Steal the Election.

It will easily refute any point Moore tries to make. It will refute any of the canards you STILL hear being raised about the vote-counting process.

Bill Sammon is a Washington Times reporter. I myself am writing a novel based (in part) on the 2000 election, and so I just happened to follow the events rather closely. Sammon does a SUPERB job and will refute that garbage of Moore's better than anything else--even better than the more popular and better known (and excellent, I might add) Coulter book. The reason for this is that Coulter cast a broad net, but Sammon is concerned only with the election. HTH.