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NASA: Mars Rover Comm Problems Look Serious
Fox News | January 22, 2004

Posted on 01/22/2004 9:07:38 AM PST by John H K

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To: Frank_Discussion
The Rover has gone on strike for more perks.
41 posted on 01/22/2004 9:35:06 AM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: RockyMtnMan
"serious anomaly" is geek speak for it's f#$ked up and we don't know why, take it from a geek that is not good terminology.

Ahhh, it's just NASA-ese. When Challenger blew up the voice guy said, "clearly we have a major anomaly."

I would be exceedingly surprised if there was no backup COMM path for them to use.

42 posted on 01/22/2004 9:35:30 AM PST by r9etb
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To: John H K
Fell into a lake. I told them to make it amphibious.
43 posted on 01/22/2004 9:36:43 AM PST by bayourod ( Dean's anti-terrorism plan: "treat people with respect and they will treat you with respect"12/1/03)
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To: John H K
Toward the end of Thursday's news briefing, Theisinger passed along word that managers had received a preliminary signal indicating Spirit was still functioning on the Martian surface. If confirmed, that would mean the rover had detected what it thought was a software fault
44 posted on 01/22/2004 9:38:21 AM PST by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: Frank_Discussion
So there is communication? Or does this mean that it's only receiving us?
45 posted on 01/22/2004 9:39:28 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: John H K
It's my understanding that contrary to CNN Alert message " CONTACT LOST WITH MARS ROVER". That they are getting reponses from the rover that it is receiving communications. It is just not following any of the commands sent to it. I would imagine that they have some sort off fallback position where the rover will perform a "soft reset" or shift into a safe mode if it is some sort of memory error.
46 posted on 01/22/2004 9:42:00 AM PST by apillar
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To: Joe Hadenuf
It is back and forth comm, but only to the extent that the rover is functioning and acknowleding signals sent to it. That's a good sign, and there is indications that it is trying to get around a software fault.

If it can get past the fault and pinpoint it, the controllers can reprogram the little fella.
47 posted on 01/22/2004 9:43:23 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: bayourod
Fell into a lake. I told them to make it amphibious.

ROFL! It's just stuck in the "mud"

48 posted on 01/22/2004 9:44:14 AM PST by adaven
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To: Joe Hadenuf
So there is communication? Or does this mean that it's only receiving us?

My marriage encountered a similar anomaly last night.

49 posted on 01/22/2004 9:45:11 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: Frank_Discussion
Talk about offshoring!
50 posted on 01/22/2004 9:45:24 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: r9etb
Ahhh, it's just NASA-ese. When Challenger blew up the voice guy said, "clearly we have a major anomaly."

I believe the quote was "obviously a major malfunction". If the scientists are calling this latest thing a "serious anomaly" then they probably think that the rover's main comm link is dead.

I would be exceedingly surprised if there was no backup COMM path for them to use.

There is a low speed backup comm link. I don't remember the exact speed but it was something like 10kbps. According to yesterday's press release, they have been able to communicate with the rover with this low speed link.

51 posted on 01/22/2004 9:45:59 AM PST by mikegi
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To: bayourod
Free Shrimp! In the words of Howard Dean, "YEEEEEEHHHHHHAAAAAAHHHHHH!"

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52 posted on 01/22/2004 9:46:38 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat (www.firethebcs.com, www.weneedaplayoff.com, www.firemackbrown.com)
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To: mikegi
From what I saw of the opening of the news conference, there had been 2 orbiter comm attempts and one earth attempt since we first found out about comm problems yesterday afternoon.

They got a very brief signal from the first orbiter attempt and nothing from the second two.

If they got some more comms while the news conference was going on that was obviously a good sign.
53 posted on 01/22/2004 9:48:59 AM PST by John H K
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To: John H K
The term "serious anomaly" was used.

The kiss of death......

54 posted on 01/22/2004 9:53:29 AM PST by Mr. Quarterpanel
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To: demlosers
better d/l an patch before the Opportunity lands....

55 posted on 01/22/2004 9:55:12 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Mr. Quarterpanel
Eh, engineer terminology can be hard to read.

When I was spending two years busily failing math and science classes at a certain extremely well-known engineering school, we used the universal term "non-optimal" to describe everything from getting a B on an exam you expected to get an A on, to your entire dorm room and all your posessions being consumed in a fire, or your roomate jumping to his death.
56 posted on 01/22/2004 10:00:16 AM PST by John H K
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To: John H K
Hmmm, wonder if the idiots who did the gloating sack dance over the failure of Beagle 2 will be showing up......

Well, according to my sources, the Beagle_2 didn't crash. It survived the landing but lost comms. In fact, shortly before losing communication with us, the Spirit rover went over a ridge and caught the Beagle_2 "doing the nasty" with one of the Viking landers. Last comm from Spirit was "she's mine"...

57 posted on 01/22/2004 10:03:14 AM PST by mikegi
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To: John H K
They got a very brief signal from the first orbiter attempt and nothing from the second two.

NASA-TV is replaying the news conference right now. He just said that the low-speed direct link has been lost, too. The radio is on but the computer isn't sending any data. I think Spirit is an ex-rover, unfortunately.

58 posted on 01/22/2004 10:08:51 AM PST by mikegi
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To: CasearianDaoist
That's what I was going to say!

From MSNBC:

Toward the end of Thursday's news briefing, Theisinger passed along word that managers had received a preliminary signal indicating Spirit was still functioning on the Martian surface. If confirmed, that would mean the rover had detected what it thought was a software fault and was trying to protect itself. That would be "good news," Theisinger said.

59 posted on 01/22/2004 10:11:52 AM PST by Clock King (If I die, my associates will avenge my death; and some of them are Vulcan.)
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To: John H K
It is Bush's fault.
60 posted on 01/22/2004 10:13:41 AM PST by pbear8 (no complaining...Thanks be to God)
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