Unbelievable. What sort of twisted logic enables that kind of thinking. Among the bashers there's kind of a "moral equivalency" perspective which sees absolutely no distinction between Bush and the Democrats. What causes that kind of warped perspective? I said in an earlier comment on this thread that I think it stems not from legitimate ideology, but from a severe personality disorder. The inability to see gradations of moral difference, particular when the differences are striking, between Bush and the Democrats says more about the person who is blind to contrasts than it does the character of the President. Many of these people are morally bankrupt, I believe. Their only guide is apparently their own twisted view of the world -- they want what they want, and to he!! with everyone else. These debates reveal something disturbing -- We're not arguing with people who have a healthy and normal moral foundation.