[exmarine]

If you think you're a conservative, but at the same time you want Bush to lose, and thereby allow a Democrat to win, then you're indeed something like a wingnut and really ought to find another forum.

I don't want Bush to lose, I want a man who will act on true conservative values, and he hasn't been doing it. As I said, I like Bush personally, but I can't accept his policies - they are detrimental to a free country. Socialism is a cancer that leads to slavery, and his immigration proposal is an abomination. And I will speak in this forum as long as I like - this forum isn't called "communist dictatorship", it's called "free republic." I don't think it matters what rational arguments are presented - people like you just hate the fact that there are conservatives who vote on principle not party. Get used to it - it's a reality.

[zook]

What I find ridiculous (there're very few things I "hate") is that anyone calling themselves a conservative would act in a way that would ensure an far far wider array of liberal-left policies to become law, i.e., by helping a Kerry, an Edward, a Clark, or a Dean to become president.

I also find it ridiculous for a conservative to imagine that they can only vote for those who completely toe the line to their own conservative agenda. If you doubt the absurdity of this, simply consider that by the standards being applied here, you would have to have voted against every Republican president and candidate over the past 50 years.