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To: exmarine
Again I agree. The founders, who possessed Reformation-like thinking, believed that the State should serve the individual, not vice versa.

Absolutely. John Calvin was the intellectual father of America. And those pro-republican anti-monarchical footnotes in the Geneva Bible that the colonists carried to the New World were pretty seditious stuff in an age of monarchy. In the hands of the early Presbys, they were a call to armed insurrection. Heck, most people don't even know that Jefferson lifted most of the Declaration from a letter circulated by a firebrand Presbyterian leader at the time.

King James responded to the Geneva's influence with the very sound KJV text. His only stipulation: no footnotes!

But King James was too late. Calvin's seditious version was in too many hands as the family bible and it accomplished its mission.

America can be seen in this light as the ultimate political fulfillment of the Reformation. I believe this is historically accurate.

So many people are unaware of the real history of the republic. They think that history is that pap they were spoonfed in those boring high school civics classes. Since they believe the propaganda public school version is boring, they don't generally dig in and find the real and very fascinating story of colonial America and the radical founding of the Republic.
1,796 posted on 01/23/2004 10:44:15 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush
So many people are unaware of the real history of the republic. They think that history is that pap they were spoonfed in those boring high school civics classes. Since they believe the propaganda public school version is boring, they don't generally dig in and find the real and very fascinating story of colonial America and the radical founding of the Republic.

It is rare to run across people who are aware of America's true unrevised history. I'm glad there are people like you out there! I have heard it said that Calvin was the true founder of America (haha).

Our gubament schools teach kids lies - that our founders were deists or atheists, that the pilgrims and puritans were bigoted and oppressive, that our founding fathers were bigoted slaveowners, that Christianity had nothing to do with our founding documents, etc. etc. And kids believe everything they are taught in school is they don't have knowledgeable parents who monitor their studies. The best way to deal with govt. schools is to GET OUT OF THEM NOW.

1,804 posted on 01/23/2004 11:05:34 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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