[honeygrl]

Howlin, I know that you aren't so dishonest as to call Bush4Bikers a liar because of a statement made by a different person that he or she just quoted. If the statement is not true, it is Zapporah you should rant at over it, not Bikers4Bush.

You seem to be getting a little over emotional. You are piling on someone who hasn't done anything wrong. (unless disagreeing with you is considered "wrong" now.) He or she gave you the source of the info. If you have a problem with it, freepmail Zapporah (or however their name is spelled) and ask the person to their face.

Killing the messenger doesn't accomplish anything.

[Howlin]

You can think whatever you want, but the fact remains that he is quoting someone as the source of an out and out lie and he is insisting it's fact.

And we tried to tell him that, but he still keeps repeating it over and over. Now he has completely mischaracterized an EO that Bush issued just to try to bolster his dubious claims.

For your informaton, Bush cannot implement this immigraton plan by EO; He can make some small changes in executive branch policy with EO’s, but wholesale changes like what he is talking about will require legislation.

To have a poster on FR -- where we value truth and facts -- continue to post that drivel when it flies in the face of the truth and KNOWN FACTS is worse than being on DU.

Killing the messenger isn't always wrong -- especially when they are spreading disinformation.

You can keep your personal remarks to yourself.

[ravingnutter]

You are piling on someone who hasn't done anything wrong.

Howlin and others tried to explain that the statement was not credible unless it could actually be sourced. Bikers4Bush kept repeating it as fact even after Howlin called the Senators offices and confirmed it was false information. He then tried to prove a point by posting a link that actually did not prove his point at all and is still spinning the inane notion that he is correct. And you think Howlin is piling on? I think Howlin is merely trying to keep Bikers4Bush from creating a riot on the forum, which would most certainly happen if his statement were even remotely true.

[Ophiucus]

Killing the messenger doesn't accomplish anything.

It saves wear on the carpet.