[exmarine]

You get no argument from me about this. On his bad days , he is better than any of the dwarves or Hillary! on a good day.As for the third party types. well, again, they might want to visit the Pat Buchanan Presidential Library for solace.

Just because the majority of republicans will still vote for Bush that doesn't mean his positions aren't liberal. Republicans fall prey to GROUPTHINK or the herd instinct as much as the liberals do. The majority is often wrong, especially in a country that gave >50% to Gore. So, I don't care if 85% of republicans back Bush, he's still liberal on many issues. That is a fact.

People who put party before principle are logically more prone to fall prey to groupthink. But arguments are won on the issues and logic, not on majority vote.

[MEG33]

Are you saying I am unprincipled if I vote for Bush?

[international american]

"People who put party before principle are logically more prone to fall prey to groupthink. But arguments are won on the issues and logic, not on majority vote."

The arguments here for Bush, are the same arguments the left uses on why any Democrat is better than a Republican..Bush goes left on some issues, right on others...or he chickens out on SCOTUS....I am a conservative first, a Republican second!

Semper Fi

[gatorbait]

So, I don't care if 85% of republicans back Bush, he's still liberal on many issues. That is a fact.

Okay, that's fine. You've amply demonstrated your thoughts on this subject. I think you're incorrect in wanting to run off to a marginal party to send a protest vote, no matter how principled you believe it to be. We diverge.