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Posted on 01/21/2004 10:30:45 PM PST by Dada Orwell
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To: mvpel
Why would he bother? It's dangerous.
As if cooking or using meth today in one of the 'slave states' is not dangerous, and as if no one bothers to do what is dangerous today.
To: Area51
That is the whole Idea. Stiffle others opinions.
So whose opinions are being stiffled? No one's that I can see.
To: Cultural Jihad
Instead, I disapprove of vilifying the immigrants who are here, and recognize the reality of their existence, and wish to integrate them, and separate out those who are here to be productive from those who are here for no good. I'm sure you do, too.Exactly. I'm for enforcing the just laws which define and protect the borders of a sovereign nation. I am for ending the welfare handouts, paid for by me, to individuals who are not citizens of this nation, and have violated these laws. I am for rewarding those who respect the rule of law, who have applied legally for entry and citizenship, with the rewards of becoming and American, and meeting those who do not with it's judgment.
I'm sure you do not. I'm sure you are willing to somehow comprimise lawlessness in the name of 'compassion' or 'social justice' or some other flimsy false justification.
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posted on
01/22/2004 6:36:46 PM PST
by
ovrtaxt
( The militia, sir, is our ultimate safety. We can have no security without it. -- Patrick Henry)
To: Cultural Jihad
As if cooking or using meth today in one of the 'slave states' is not dangerous, and as if no one bothers to do what is dangerous today.The only reason it's worth the risk of danger to cook it is because of the incredible profit margin that the enforced scarcity imposed by the War on Some Drugs has guaranteed for it.
If the government restrained itself to its Constitutionally-authorized duties instead of trying to control what its citizens put into their bodies, mood-altering substances (other than Paxil, Zoloft, Celexa, Prozac, Adrafinil, Deprenyl, Effexor, Moclobemide, Reboxetine, Tianeptine, Lexapro, Luvox, Nortriptyline, Remeron, Serzone, Trazodone, Wellbutrin, etc, which are patented) would be available for pennies a dose, which is near their intrinsic value, and I suspect that not many people would bother with the risk of cooking meth if they couldn't demand a thousand times that price.
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posted on
01/22/2004 7:14:15 PM PST
by
mvpel
(Michael Pelletier)
To: mvpel
Well, one often hears stories that the price is all artificially high, whereas in actuality it is determined solely by supply and demand. As an example, cannabis costs the same whether one buys it on the street or walks into a government-approved cafe for it.
To: mvpel
Someone asked for a link to the audio file that generated this thread. here it is:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,108219,00.html You'll have to scroll down to the picture of the porcupine.
mv wrote:
##As if cooking or using meth today in one of the 'slave states' is not dangerous ##
"slave states" heh heh
To: Cultural Jihad
Al Capone's criminal organization pulled in something on the order of $60 million a year during alcohol prohibition, corrupting vast swaths of government and law enforcement, and America got its first exposure to "gang warfare:"
![](http://www.prairieghosts.com/valentine1.jpg)
What is it about this kind of social pathology that so enchants you? Do you think it's better than however many people masturbating themselves to death on chemical orgasms without the benefit of a Government bootprint on their door?
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posted on
01/22/2004 7:59:32 PM PST
by
mvpel
(Michael Pelletier)
To: mvpel
What is it about this kind of social pathology that so enchants you?
Libertarians for fraud, eh?
To: Cultural Jihad
Fraud? What are you talking about?
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posted on
01/23/2004 7:04:53 AM PST
by
mvpel
(Michael Pelletier)
To: freeeee
Or,
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.
H.L. Mencken
To: Cultural Jihad
The cost to produce almost any drug is about the same regardless of whether it is currently legal or not. If you get rid of taxes and regulations they would be cheaper still. Illegal drugs would cost about the same as Tylenol to produce. They would also be a lot safer and accidental overdoses on almost any drugs would be nearly non existent.
There is very little labor or material cost involved in the production of drugs. The cost is there due to risk of loosing your life or freedom by going against the government, doing everything in secret, and competing in the black market. When was the last time people got killed over producing and selling alcohol? When did all the moonshiners close shop? Making anything illegal increases the profit for anyone who is willing to break the law. I could make a killing selling cigarets in many parts of the country right now due to taxes, litigation costs, and regulations on the product. They are $8 a pack in some places!
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posted on
01/28/2004 10:39:31 PM PST
by
dustind
To: dustind
And yet the price is either the same or higher for legal, government-approved cannabis. Again, it's simply the law of supply and demand.
To: Cultural Jihad
I agree that it is supply and demand, but the price of drugs, both legal and not is distorted incredibly by the government. The supply would rise if the market was not so restricted and regulated.
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posted on
01/29/2004 7:33:35 PM PST
by
dustind
To: dustind
Indeed, but the the fact is the going price is still the same or higher for legal cannabis than the price for the same illegal thing on the corner. None of your many replies have addressed that point yet.
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