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Confused Democrats renew attack on Free State Project

Posted on 01/21/2004 10:30:45 PM PST by Dada Orwell

FoxNews.com did an audio feature this week on the Free State Project in which members were honored yet again with the ultimate compliment:

An attack... By a Democrat party hack!

The Free State Project, for those uninitiated, is the movement aimed at persuading 20,000 liberty-oriented individuals to move to New Hampshire and reinforce the increasingly bold freedom movement there. Free Staters, almost to a man, oppose "Nanny Government..." including gun control, coercive funding of public schools and drug prohibition.

Here's NH Democrat Party chair Kathy Sullivan's take on the Free State Project:

"Well I think it's a bad idea because the leadership of the Free State Project is talking about establishing an autocracy in New Hampshire. I'm a firm believer in democracy, I do not think it's a good idea for a group to come in and try to take over, in essence, control of the government. I think that democracy is a great thing. Unfortunately, the leadership of the Free State Project is promoting this as an actual takeover of the government and promoting the establishment of an autocracy."

Free Staters, while always happy to be attacked by Demothoritarians, were nevertheless confused by Ms. Sullivan's remarks.

Most of them favor extremely limited government and increased state & local *autonomy* to such an extent that Sullivan herself has in the past called them "anarchists."

One theory is that Sullivan meant to say "autonomy" instead of "autocracy" or that she thinks the word "autocracy" means "autonomous state." This is understandable if she was raised in a government school.

Just for the record:

Autocracy

1. Government by a single person having unlimited power; despotism. 2. A country or state that is governed by a single person with unlimited power.

- American Heritage College Dictionary:


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1 posted on 01/21/2004 10:30:45 PM PST by Dada Orwell
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To: Dada Orwell
I know some will hate this comparison but illegal aliens have proved this idea will work using an entire country. Look at the political power they have now.
2 posted on 01/21/2004 10:33:11 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
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To: Dada Orwell
Is there a link to the audio report?

Silly Democrats - they just hate it when people don't want to be part of their grand social experiment.
3 posted on 01/21/2004 10:35:26 PM PST by kingu (Remember: Politicians and members of the press are going to read what you write today.)
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To: Dada Orwell
Yaaaawwwwwwn ........... ZZzZzzzzzzzz .......
4 posted on 01/21/2004 10:36:04 PM PST by Moonman62
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
I know some will hate this comparison but illegal aliens have proved this idea will work using an entire country. Look at the political power they have now.

True!

5 posted on 01/21/2004 10:44:14 PM PST by c-b 1
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To: Dada Orwell
Back in the 70's there was a gay movement to move to Alpine County, California (near Tahoe, very small) and take over the county government. I think the movement died in February, when they discovered the shrinkage factor of the long winters.
6 posted on 01/21/2004 10:46:12 PM PST by Michael.SF. ("Yaaaaaaaaaaaaah!" - Howard Dean)
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To: Dada Orwell
The whole idea seems ludicrous somehow, for people to move somewhere for the sole purpose of imposing their toleration of evils which they claim to not have any personal interest in.

"You know, I'm personally not involved in the manufacture or use of crystal meth, and am opposed to it, but I will sell everything I own and move 2,000 miles away for the sole purpose of moving next door to someone who does so that I can impose my toleration upon him. I'll sit on my porch overlooking his land with its meth still, and at all the traffic coming and going, and at all the environmental damage, and all the health and lives being ruined, and I'll wave and smile at them. It feels good, knowing that they wave and smile at me, too, as I go to church on Sundays and to the bingo game on Wednesdays."


8 posted on 01/21/2004 10:55:35 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Read the Open Borders and US Security, post 9-11. I think the sentiment that you expressed is the same as this article.(from Frontpage)
9 posted on 01/21/2004 11:06:56 PM PST by Eva
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To: Eva
There is a free state project going on now all over the West. It is called Flight from California. In the process the exodus is establishing a free state called Mexifornia. America is creating its own Kosovo with the cooperation of the Federal government. With La Raza and other groups seeking to form a new nation to escape the jurisdiction of their native country and take the old Texas Republic back along with Chihauhua and Sonora, we will see some interesting times ahead.
10 posted on 01/22/2004 3:49:17 AM PST by meenie
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To: Cultural Jihad
And yet you favor open borders. Sounds pretty Libertarian to me, CJ.
11 posted on 01/22/2004 3:55:19 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Of course, my parasitic twin has a completely different opinion.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Not at all. Instead, I disapprove of vilifying the immigrants who are here, and recognize the reality of their existence, and wish to integrate them, and separate out those who are here to be productive from those who are here for no good. I'm sure you do, too.

12 posted on 01/22/2004 6:34:43 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Admin Moderator
Why is a link to another immigration thread being removed? Is it to close to the factual truth?
14 posted on 01/22/2004 7:03:45 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: B4Ranch
Spamming thread after thread with it is what the problem is here.

Thanks, LM

15 posted on 01/22/2004 7:06:12 AM PST by Lead Moderator
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To: archy
ping; I think this list is yours?
16 posted on 01/22/2004 7:08:53 AM PST by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: Lead Moderator
Is this acceptable; Comment with Holding the door open for our political leaders
17 posted on 01/22/2004 7:09:32 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: Lead Moderator
I meant to post it as a comment with

Holding the door open for our political leaders

18 posted on 01/22/2004 7:10:54 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: B4Ranch
If you are intending to post it on thread after thread, most of which are at best only marginally tangentally related to the thread you are linking, then the answer is no.

Thanks, LM

19 posted on 01/22/2004 7:16:37 AM PST by Lead Moderator
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To: Cultural Jihad
Confused Democrats renew attack on Free State Project

They're confused alright. Some of the people attacking the FSP think they aren't democrats.

"D(d)emocracy and liberty are often thought to be the same thing, but they are not. D(d)emocracy means that people ought to be able to vote for public officials in fair elections, and make most political decisions by majority rule. Liberty, on the other hand, means that even in a democracy, individuals have rights that no majority should be able to take away."
- The Bill of Rights, A Brief History

20 posted on 01/22/2004 7:23:42 AM PST by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord)
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