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Sorry to be negative, but from what I've read about these 'Hipublicans' makes me believe they are basically young neoconservatives. Now I'm not saying that is inherently bad, but it also seems as though they have some of the worst traits of those neocons who won't hesitate to cast racist charges at fellow conservatives who dare disagree with them on issues like immigration.

I also get the sense that these 'Hipublicans' are steeped in left-wing ideology in the way they spout mindless platitudes about the glories of diversity. They probably have no problem with Bush's surrender on racial preferences, and also probably have no problem with judicially mandated gay marriages (or whatever euphemism you want to use like 'civil unions').

In other words I don't get the sense that Hipublicans are conservative at all when it comes to social issues other than abortion.
7 posted on 01/21/2004 12:42:49 PM PST by Aetius
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To: Aetius
Thanks for confirming my worst fears. The hell with them. Go stick with the Dems, you RINO scumbags.

Lemme guess, this guy's their idol?

9 posted on 01/21/2004 12:44:46 PM PST by KantianBurke (2+2 does NOT equal 5)
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To: Aetius
Sorry to be negative, but from what I've read about these 'Hipublicans' makes me believe they are basically young neoconservatives. Now I'm not saying that is inherently bad, but it also seems as though they have some of the worst traits of those neocons who won't hesitate to cast racist charges at fellow conservatives who dare disagree with them on issues like immigration.

I also get the sense that these 'Hipublicans' are steeped in left-wing ideology in the way they spout mindless platitudes about the glories of diversity. They probably have no problem with Bush's surrender on racial preferences, and also probably have no problem with judicially mandated gay marriages (or whatever euphemism you want to use like 'civil unions').

In other words I don't get the sense that Hipublicans are conservative at all when it comes to social issues other than abortion.

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30 posted on 01/21/2004 6:26:31 PM PST by AnnaZ ("And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God..." ~Romans 8:28a~)
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To: Aetius
I also get the sense that these 'Hipublicans' are steeped in left-wing ideology in the way they spout mindless platitudes about the glories of diversity. They probably have no problem with Bush's surrender on racial preferences, and also probably have no problem with judicially mandated gay marriages (or whatever euphemism you want to use like 'civil unions').

Great observation.

51 posted on 01/22/2004 5:00:22 PM PST by independentmind
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To: Aetius; KantianBurke
A while back, my tagline read "The only problem I have with conservatism is conservatives." And you two's thinking provides a perfect example.

I'm 32. Younger folks turning towards the Right/conservatism don't need people like you turning them away by questioning their motives, intentions, or sincerity.

Being a reactionary is not good by itself. But that's what so-called conservatives are really good at. React! React! React!

Personally speaking, I don't even consider myself a conservative anymore. No one could accuse me of being friendly with any part of Leftist thought, either.

Oh, and Aetius, let me address something you said specifically. You said, "I also get the sense that these 'Hipublicans' are steeped in left-wing ideology in the way they spout mindless platitudes about the glories of diversity." That's the point!

This is a dual-edged sword that works in the Right's favor. First, and I can personally attest to this, they recognize the utter nonsense that they had been indoctrinated with. Second, they realize that diversity of opinion is great, not diversity for diversity's sake.

If the sum is greater than its parts, strengthen the sum by strengthening the parts. In other words, you should welcome them and let each one be edified through debate, not cast aside or shunned.

54 posted on 01/24/2004 2:19:59 PM PST by rdb3 (If Jesse Jack$on and I meet, face to face, it's gonna be a misunderstanding...)
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