[So Cal Rocket]

Delta IV Heavy:

First flight is this year. Can lift 50,000lbs to LEO - a real heavy lift capability. Manrating would be expensive, but cheaper than a new design.

Don't invest the money in developing new big dumb boosters... spend it on nuclear engines for the crew exploration vehicle.

[Frank_Discussion]

I think that's where my "it hasn't launched yet" thinking came from.