1 posted on
01/21/2004 5:31:06 AM PST by
RebelDawg
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2 posted on
01/21/2004 5:31:47 AM PST by
RebelDawg
To: RebelDawg
Wouldn't it be hilarious if droves of Americans started moving to India or the Phillipines, getting the Indian or Filipino versions of work visas, and snapping up those jobs?
To: RebelDawg
These are only jobs that Americans refuse to do...
4 posted on
01/21/2004 5:42:47 AM PST by
2banana
To: RebelDawg
Yep, and back in the '70s, sales reps from India were pitching and selling their software products and programming services in the US, including on military bases.
5 posted on
01/21/2004 5:42:58 AM PST by
Consort
To: RebelDawg
There is another part of this story.
Teachers in grade school are incapable of teaching math and science. Therefore, students don't get interested, feel incompetent (because they are) and choose other fields.
As for high school math and science teachers, they have long since left the profession for jobs in other fields.
6 posted on
01/21/2004 5:42:59 AM PST by
OldFriend
(Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
To: RebelDawg
The average age of an engineer in aerospace is 56. Most young people today don't want to take any serious subjects in university, it interferes with their social live too much.
In order for companies to survive, they need educated workers. They will get them where they can.
I would like to know what sources indicate that there are 'millions' of engineers looking for work in the USA.
7 posted on
01/21/2004 5:47:01 AM PST by
BillM
To: RebelDawg
Evidently some people think that the world and the economy are never supposed to change.
Repeat after me: THE ECONOMY IS CYCLICAL!!!
The engineering and (especially) computing fields have had wild up and down swings since the beginning.
In the sixties there was the the aerospace depression. Life Magazine ran a picture of a PhD engineer stocking grocery shelves.
A few years later there was a scarcity of engineers, and pay was sky-high.
The end of the world is not here.
Grow up.
To: RebelDawg
Foreign wages is the problem --- once we attracted the world's best engineers but with companies all trying to head down as close to minimum wage as possible, we're not bringing in the best.
10 posted on
01/21/2004 6:10:28 AM PST by
FITZ
To: RebelDawg
More money in becoming a blood sucking lawyer.
11 posted on
01/21/2004 6:14:43 AM PST by
Chewbacca
(I want to be Emporer of Mars.)
To: RebelDawg
I saw this coming back when the news broke about all the tech jobs being shipped offshore. When we ship high-paying technical jobs offshore, what do we tell our kids to study in college in order for them to get a good job with a stable career when they get out of college?
This is one of those times I hate to be right, but I foresaw the damage that would occur if we allowed these jobs to leave the US. When we don't have high-paying, high-tech jobs to offer our kids, those departments in the colleges and universitires begain to feel the pinch and will eventually close.
We really need to re-think the policy of shipping our best jobs offshore. After all, there are only so many jobs available that come with the phrase "You want fries with that?"
12 posted on
01/21/2004 6:18:00 AM PST by
DustyMoment
(Repeal CFR NOW!!)
To: RebelDawg
Why do so many medical professionals in America have names I cannot pronounce?
13 posted on
01/21/2004 6:18:43 AM PST by
verity
To: RebelDawg
There is some merit to your ironic argument, but ...
Cost is a factor, but another major factor in the outsourcing to India movement is that there are few Ameicans who are capable of producing quality software. Software development is not easy, has a long learning curve, requires painstaking attention to detail and is very frustrating. These are qualities that graduates of USA institutions simply do not possess.
How many of us know high school students who were good at playing games on the computer and surfing the Web, went to college majoring in CS at the insistence of parents and high school counslers and then found out what they were getting into and swtitched majors to "Business"?????
15 posted on
01/21/2004 6:20:54 AM PST by
Seajay
(Ordem e Progresso)
To: EdReform
BTTT
17 posted on
01/21/2004 6:25:23 AM PST by
EdReform
(Free Republic - Now more than ever! Thank you for your support!)
To: RebelDawg
A company that moves its facilities to some third world rathole to pay peon wages, no benefits and enjoy the right to dump garbage in the environment is not an American company, even if they have headquarters here and claim they are American.
They and their products should be treated as foreign corporations and everything they bring in here should be taxed - HEAVILY. The only thing these swine understand is economics and we should use an economic big stick to beat them into reason.
If we had to fight WW1 or WW2 again we couldn't do it. We haven't got the heavy industry, the shipyards, the faciliites for manufacturing war materials. Even our uniforms and hand weapons are made overseas.
This is insanity and economic suicide.
30 posted on
01/21/2004 6:49:01 AM PST by
ZULU
(Remember the Alamo!!!!!)
To: RebelDawg
This is just another job that Americans won't do, didn't ya know?
Let me clue you in on what the real worry is about, and you can take it or leave it. American ingenuity. They fear the lack of the ability to rip it off. Sure they can hire hindus in India working off black market stolen programs, but ask them to come up with something outside the box, ask them to innovate, and they look at their feet.
So here is their delimma, how to attract the innovative into a field where they can and will be ripped off. It's a tough sell.
To: RebelDawg
You are correct. I have a degree in chemical engineering -- and in hindsight, I'd rather have skipped college and learned how to be a plumber or machinist or something.
35 posted on
01/21/2004 7:02:34 AM PST by
Sloth
("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
To: RebelDawg
>Perhaps if there was an incentive to enter these fields,like the possibility of actually obtaining a job after college, then maybe
we wouldn't be facing this so called labor shortage
To: RebelDawg
millions of Americans whom are already educatedwho are already educated... Always sucks making a grammatical error when discussing education ;p
45 posted on
01/21/2004 7:17:44 AM PST by
thedugal
(Someone ping me when the shootin' starts...)
To: RebelDawg
BTTT!
49 posted on
01/21/2004 7:24:23 AM PST by
aodell
To: RebelDawg
Not to worry. Heck, after 6-8 more years of College, we're all gonna be Brain Surgeons or BioTechs, and whats more, it ain't gonna cost us nuttin. There must be thousand's and thousand's of people in need of Brain Surgery (I can account for a few in need of such right here on FR). I can't wait for my job to be farmed out so I can get mine. Who wants to be my first patient? Any taker's? Gotta start somewhere. Blackbird.
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