[Common Tator]

No one is misleading Bush.

Willie your problem is you are in the minority.. the small minority. You have all the political clout of a drunk running for president of the Woman'c Christian Temperance Union.

Willie you have spent a lot of your life bemoaning the fact that no elected politican will ever do what you want. Boo HOO HOO you cry... they Sob sob always betray you.

Someday you may figure out that to get a politician to do what you want, you have to get a majority of the voters in your corner.

Instead of changing public opinion you keep looking for a savior. Every time you think you've found a saviour Willie, he tells you to go to hell.

[Willie Green]

The editorial I linked to provides an excellent summary of the marxist influence in trade and illegal immigration policies. It is not surprising at all that the only rebuttal you can offer is a scathing personal attack intended to deflect attention away from its substance. The majority of more thoughtful participants on this forum can see right through such adolescent tactics.

[hchutch]

EXCELLENT post.

In fact, this oughta be Post of the Day!

[Sabertooth]

Someday you may figure out that to get a politician to do what you want, you have to get a majority of the voters in your corner.

A majority of Americans and Republiicans already oppose the Bush Amnesty for Illegal Aliens. They opposed Amnesty before January 7th; they oppose it now; they will oppose Amnesty in November.

Some of them will vote for President Bush anyway -- enough, probably, to insure his reelection.

Others won't, which could be problematic for Republicans further down the ticket.

So, I don't really see why President Bush is proposing something that is not only bad policy, but also potentially bad politics.

[ArneFufkin]

FR has always been a gathering place for an element of miserable eunuchs, only now they have 60,000 or so FR "sleeper" accounts they've established since 2000 to play with. They're attempting to create a completely phony groundswell here, totally manufactured to execute a charade for outside observers and media sorts who visit here.

They're annoying and bastards, but utterly unsophisticated and irrelevant.

[section9]

What I suspect is this.

For the past six months, Dean has driven the center of the Democratic Party away from the center itself. Well, as night follows day, this left the center open to Bush and Rove. Bush's spending programs are designed to hold that center and force Kerry, Edwards, or Dean to run to Bush's left.

These three can't call for less government spending, they can only call for more! Bush can claim that compared to what, say, an Edwards might offer, he is the model of restraint. Bush can (and will) say that he believes in helping people in need, but one must be careful to watch the growth of government programs. To keep the base jazzed, especially the resentful Deanies, any Dem will have to run left to prevent Naderization.

Let's look at several issues that prove my point:

1. From Willie Green on down, virtually everyone is wondering how Bush is going to pay for pills for granny. What no one understood is that the Democrats have resurrected Hillarycare, Canadacare, and other NHS-type hijinks designed to make medical care a state run operation. Bush is for a limited program for prescription drugs. Democrats will have to outbid him to satisfy their base and keep all those Roosevelt Democrats in line. Your average Deanie believes that the Democratic Party should offer National Health. Most liberals think that Hillarycare was the triumph of wisdom. Like water in a canyon, the Democrats will follow the path of least resistance.

2. The border. Okay, someone had to give voice to the "Mexicans Under the Bed" subtext that has been plagueing FR these past months. But again, Bush has stolen the center. That's what the Reed Irvine crowd doesn't get. Tom Tancredo wants to round 'em up and deport them. All that would do is drive Latinos of all stripes into Ratland. Instead, Bush's program is a limited form of amnesty. The Democrats, pressured by the Aztlan crowd, will press for full amnesty. La Raza will be a group of happy campers after the Boston Convention. The voting center will not be, however. They will see Bush's program as restrained compared to what's going to come out of the mouths of Democrats. Again, this will happen as night follows day.

3. Everybody except Lieberman was anti-war. Lieberman is almost history. That leaves the Democratic Party in "BUSH EQUALS HITLER" land while Bush, not being Hitler, once again occupies the center.

The Right will threaten to take its ball home until they see what the Democrats offer. Then they will vote for Bush.

As night follows day.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[WOSG]

Brilliant analysis, CommonTator.

oh, the tyranny of unreasonable expectations!

But Willie, dont change who you are. The world has been remade many times by the 'unreasonable people' of the world. And sometimes, even, for the better.