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Marker is dropped off at City Hall
The Winston-Salem Journal ^ | 1-20-03 | Victoria Cherrie and Theo Helm

Posted on 01/20/2004 9:13:01 AM PST by RepublicanLady

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1 posted on 01/20/2004 9:13:03 AM PST by RepublicanLady
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To: RepublicanLady
This is a stunt that really makes me believe that Vernon Robinson is really in this race only for his own notoriety.

I have commented before that he is offensive in nature and presentation, but this is just a S-T-U-N-T. This was simply a publicity stunt to get press coverage.

Well, I for one read this story and lost a lot of respect for Vernon. I do admit that I really admire his conservative stances at times, but find him very brash and harsh.

I think that this was a very risky maneuver that shows that he is really only out for himself and to gain fame, or in this case, INFAMY.
2 posted on 01/20/2004 9:18:08 AM PST by RepublicanLady
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running for the Republican nomination for the 5th Congressional District

Demonstrating that Roy Moore is not the only person to use the Commandments as a political prop.

3 posted on 01/20/2004 9:26:40 AM PST by RJCogburn ("Hooray for the man from Texas!"........Mattie Ross of near Dardenelle in Yell County)
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To: RepublicanLady
I said something like that a couple months ago, and was slammed. People don't like you taking about about Vernon. remember, he is the black Jesse Helms. He has told us 50 times.
4 posted on 01/20/2004 9:31:21 AM PST by jern
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To: RepublicanLady
Although he admitted that he has had the idea since October, he said he couldn't find out what the procedure was because of "timing," declining to explain further.

I find this statement to be disingenuous. He's on the city council. If he doesn't know what the procedure is (and he should, given he's a council member), he can ask someone (city attorney, parliamentarian, etc.)

5 posted on 01/20/2004 9:35:26 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: RepublicanLady
I agree. Robinson is a showboater, veering dangerously close to being an all-out doofus. Geeze, if you're going to do a publicity stunt like this, how 'bout a little originality?

Grandstanding like this detracts from his message, and that's too bad, because he is a conservative, and a fairly articulate and charismatic one at that. The 5th Congressional District is solidly Republican; the winner of the GOP Primary will go to Congress. We can do better than Mr. Robinson.

6 posted on 01/20/2004 9:35:59 AM PST by southernnorthcarolina (How 'bout those CAROLINA PANTHERS!)
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To: TaxRelief
Ping.
7 posted on 01/20/2004 9:36:09 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: RepublicanLady
He did not need to do this to get elected. This is going to hurt his chances in the end.
9 posted on 01/20/2004 9:56:57 AM PST by connectthedots (Don't come to a tank battle with a pen knife)
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To: RepublicanLady
yes ma'am you are correct...vernon is too harsh and brash to be elected...although i agree with most of his stands..i have found him to be not to be a likable type....this is not to say he isnt a good guy..just a personality quirk...told him years ago to lighten up some...apparently he chose not to..all the best
10 posted on 01/20/2004 10:01:02 AM PST by rrrod
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To: RepublicanLady
Ah! Posts from Winston's own liberal rag.

Guess we can believe anything in the W-S journal, even if the journal calls someone a "Jesse Helms".
11 posted on 01/20/2004 10:04:10 AM PST by TaxRelief (P-a-n-t-h-e-r-s, Go Panthers!)
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To: jern
The Republican Party will never accept a conservative black man. Too much burden. You have to be somewhat wishy-washy and liberal, like Colin Powell and the Congressman from OK who just retired (I cannot recall his name), and will have to take cues from other wishy-washy big wigs in the party. Standards are different for whites for whom the party will tolerate independent conservatism, like Tancredo and Ron Paul.
12 posted on 01/20/2004 10:21:20 AM PST by FirstPrinciple
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To: TaxRelief
You'll also find the story on Vernon's website. It is a fact that he did it. It's my opinion that it's a naive, publicity stunt.
13 posted on 01/20/2004 10:46:17 AM PST by RepublicanLady
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Oh yeah. The one thing I know I look for in a Congressman is whether or not he is a nice guy. Personally, I want someone fearless which is what Vernon Robinson is. We have more than enough Congressmen who apparently have had spinectomies.

And Vernon has consistently brought attention to issues using guerilla marketing for his entire political career. It is nothing new. To say that it is just doesn't tell the story.

Frankly, I'd like to have someone in Congress who doesn't spew the same old boring talking points. Blah blah blah.

It's more than beyond time to shake things up in the Capitol and Vernon is the guy to do it.
14 posted on 01/20/2004 12:57:48 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly
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The one thing this area doesn't need is a Congressman who stages publicity stunts claiming that he "didn't know the procedure" to see how to go about obtaining a permit.

If anything else, Vernon has tried to position himself as a knowledgable, articulate candidate who has all his facts straight. This is why this screams of publicity stunt.

He could easily have found out what it was that he needed to obtain a permit--he just wanted to make a news splash by copying a heavily publicized event in Alabama.

Besides, I thought that Vernon didn't have enough $ to fund his campaign, but he spends $2,000 on a monument (not including the fees that he'll suffer for breaking the law for putting it on public property without a permit).

It's not original, and therefore stinks of just wanting publicity rather than his true belief in the Commandments themselves.
15 posted on 01/20/2004 1:12:06 PM PST by RepublicanLady
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To: RepublicanLady
So you said.

Is there anything else about this that bothers you? Do you believe the first amendment says that there should be a seperation of government and religion? Or do you believe the first amendment only prevents the federal government from making laws concerning religion?

How do you feel about public prayer?

What is your position on kids wearing religious symbols to public schools?
16 posted on 01/20/2004 1:28:07 PM PST by TaxRelief (P-a-n-t-h-e-r-s, Go Panthers!)
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My thoughts on this do not involve my personal religious beliefs. Mainly, I see this as Robinson wrongly using religion to gain publicity.

Look at the facts. He is merely copying someone else that gained a tremendous amount of national publicity for placing the Ten Commandments in a public forum in Alabama. Robinson is playing off of this using the Ten Commandments as a way to gain more publicity for his campaign.

TaxRelief, let me ask you this. Do you honestly believe that Vernon Robinson would have paid $2,000 to have this monument placed on City Hall grounds if he were not running for Congress? The extremely obvious nature of it all is what makes it seem so forced and contrived. That's my opinion.
17 posted on 01/20/2004 1:44:34 PM PST by RepublicanLady
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To: RepublicanLady
An abbreviated version of the Bill of Rights

That's the only version we have anymore.

18 posted on 01/20/2004 1:47:46 PM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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I'll repeat my main point. I see Robinson as using religion as a publicity stunt. I definitely believe in every word of the Bill of Rights and the Ten Commandments. I never said that I didn't.

If there are those of you that believe that Robinson actually did this as a measure of support for the Bill of Rights and the Ten Commandments, then so be it. I can tell you now, that knowing his past displays, this was merely done for attention. You can have your opinions. This is mine.

I, like most of you, like what Vernon has to say. It is very apparent that this move was made on a POLITICAL AGENDA. It certainly wasn't made as a true stand on the Ten Commandments or the Bill of Rights for that matter.
19 posted on 01/20/2004 1:56:50 PM PST by RepublicanLady
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Oh, I don't disagree -- sounds like a publicity stunt to me. It just happens that those two decalogues -- the Commandments and the BOR -- both get mere lip service today. We waste time fighting over physical inscriptions of them when the reality of both is just a memory.
20 posted on 01/20/2004 2:01:08 PM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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