[DMCA]

Please point out where I compared copyright to the 2nd adm. I did not. I said you where using the same logic as the gun grabbers. Let me repeat that, I said you where using the same logic as the gun grabbers.

As fo as bypasing the encryption, well, you can't. The DMCA makes that illegal, a felony that the FBI and Secret Service investigate. This is about as far away from the founders intent as CFR is.

[BlueNgold]

You compared the logic to gun grabbers, which I see as an extreme not germane to this topic. The gun grabbers want to squelch a constitutional right. The companies and artists involved here simply intend to use technology to maintain their copyrights. I see no comparison so I used an extreme example to make that point. Call it sarcasm.

I don't see encryption in the same light as you do. You need not bypass it, simply use another source. Buy the CD and copy it onto a digital tape, buy the DVD and copy it onto a VHS or DVT, buy the book or newspaper and scan it or photcopy it...

There are legal and accessible ways to maintain fair use. The copyright holder is not obliged to make it easy, or even accessible. Many fair use products rely on ground up re-creation without the benefit of downloads, copying, or taping. IMHO the founders would not be appalled, or even concerned. (In their day fair use meant transcribing or type-setting by hand. I think they understood the user had an obligation to perform some of the work to generate a 'fair use' product.)

We will apparently have to agree to disagree on this. It's been fun. Take care, and keep fighting for what you believe in.