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"This has led commentators to lament how America's twin deficits could grow into a 'full-blown, Third World-style financial crisis'."

Any crisis of confidence would see them withdrawing their loans, triggering a fall in American financial markets and then a run on the greenback.

The writing is already on the wall.

In the past year, the greenback has racked up losses of more than 20 per cent against the euro - falling to a seven-year low of around 80 US cents to the euro. Against the yen, it has shed 11 per cent to hit a three-year low of 105 yen to the dollar.

And we've been saying this for a while now and just tagged as being stupid little "goldbugs". Amazing.

1 posted on 01/18/2004 12:45:19 PM PST by Beck_isright
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2 posted on 01/18/2004 12:46:25 PM PST by Beck_isright ("Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."-Alexander Hamilton)
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This has led to a massive current account deficit of more than US$500 billion (S$850 billion) - a far cry from 10 years ago, when the US enjoyed a trade surplus of US$82 billion.

According to some on FR this is a sign of the US's growing wealth -- that we can afford to import more than we can create ourselves. They don't seem to follow this to the next step: that we're beholden to foreign governments that buy our debt.
3 posted on 01/18/2004 1:01:03 PM PST by lelio
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Bottom line reads "profit"..If it takes Asian workers to enlarge that bottom line, so be it. If we transfer enough wealth to China, they will not want to make war and will become a peace loving friend.
7 posted on 01/18/2004 1:17:29 PM PST by cynicom
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Mr Paul Krugman, a prominent economist who foresaw the 1997 Asian financial crisis, drew the conclusion as early as last October

Real good source there Beck. And don't give me that cliche that a broken clock is right twice a day. The clock is still broken.

10 posted on 01/18/2004 1:21:39 PM PST by Dane
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bump
14 posted on 01/18/2004 1:30:51 PM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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The article speculates about the disastrous results of a Weimar-style mega-devaluation, while citing actual figures showing a much more modest develation of 25% or so against the Euro and gold. What Asians are really afraid of is that the devaluation that has already taken place will cause us to make more of our own goods, and put Americans back to work doing so.
19 posted on 01/18/2004 1:41:19 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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The US$ to Euro has plunged from about $1.29US to $1.23US per one Euro within the last week. That's a 5% change in the direction of a stronger dollar. I trade currencies and I don't follow this guy.....
22 posted on 01/18/2004 1:42:34 PM PST by Jaysun (The liberal mind is so open - so open that ideas simply pass through it.)
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As French economist Jacques Rueff said: 'If I had an agreement with my tailor that whatever money I pay him returns to me the very same day as a loan, I would have no objection at all to ordering more suits from him.'

Especially when the price is lower than domestic producer costs. Free market/free suits bump.

31 posted on 01/18/2004 2:50:53 PM PST by A. Pole (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain , the hand of free market must be invisible)
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Somebody ping Willie Green! He will have a whiteout!
38 posted on 01/18/2004 3:21:37 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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At what time will this price be paid by Joe six pack is what should be addressed...

When will that be???

40 posted on 01/18/2004 3:29:43 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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blah blah blah blah blah yadda yadda blah.

say it with me, students: you WANT a lower dollar when you're in debt. it's cheaper to pay it back....

46 posted on 01/18/2004 4:56:42 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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Never mind that. Let's go to Mars and add prescription drug coverage to Medicare!
50 posted on 01/18/2004 5:31:41 PM PST by dr_who_2
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Never mind that. Let's go to Mars and add prescription drug coverage to Medicare!
51 posted on 01/18/2004 5:31:44 PM PST by dr_who_2
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Aside from the flight to gold--what might the Chinamen and Nipponese do? Burn their T-Bonds? Demand gold?

I suspect that at this point, the rise in the Euro's value is about over. The Euro was undervalued to the dollar two years ago (read Agora's old stuff) and gold was undervalued, as well.

The problem for all those other guys is that there is really no substitute for the dollar, and as long as the US economy is picking up (which the Admin steadfastly tells us is the case,) the Bond-holders will wait.

What else can they do?
55 posted on 01/18/2004 5:57:12 PM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: Beck_isright
Bump.
65 posted on 01/18/2004 6:13:11 PM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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US Dollar plunge could lead to full-blown financial crisis

we could pull this title apart one phrase at a time. start with 'plunge.'

your assignment is to find a historical chart of the US Dollar index, and locate where the $ has 'plunged' in the past, to establish the economic context. Then, notice how the sky failed to fall and the world failed to end in those periods.

Point to ponder: has the $ ever been lower viz a vis a basket of foreign currencies? Do economic phenomena ever take place in a static world, or do conditions change and affect conditions, thereby altering premises in the process? Have world's currencies been inflated as well, so that sheer dollar amount of US debt may be deceiving regarding it's magnitude relative to foreign economies? Has the wealth of the US increased substantially such that a debt/equity ratio in current dollars might not be as staggering as the absolute $ amount of the debt suggests? Are people unaccustomed and therefore afraid of ten digit amounts, since only a generation ago those numbers were far rarer?

85 posted on 01/18/2004 6:58:05 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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Higher oil prices and higher gold prices are the first impacts of a weakened US dollar. Our economy can be pulled down by gasoline permanently at $2.25/gallon which is one projection I hear.

So far the price of imports have not risen because the Chinese Rembi is tied (mated) to the US dollar. But they will.
104 posted on 01/18/2004 8:11:46 PM PST by dennisw (“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
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Mr Paul Krugman, a prominent economist who foresaw the 1997 Asian financial crisis, drew the conclusion as early as last October. In a New York Times column, he said the US economy was approaching a 'Wile E. Coyote' moment - when the coyote in the famous Road Runner cartoon runs off a cliff, only to realise at the last minute - too late - that it is about to plunge to the bottom.


Wile E. Coyote - GENIUS

108 posted on 01/18/2004 8:42:50 PM PST by Paul Ross (Reform Islam Now! -- Nuke Mecca!)
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What's plunging worse, the dollar or Howard Dean's candidacy?
138 posted on 01/19/2004 2:06:43 PM PST by dfwgator
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CLINK not PING! The EUROpeans will panic first. They will support the dollar because they don't want the dollar to be weak cyphoning trade and JOBS. The Germans started to panic at 1.28 US to 1 EURO
142 posted on 01/19/2004 3:04:04 PM PST by Henchman (I Hench, therefore I am!)
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